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Was Mace Windu beating Palpatine a fluke?
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u know guys, it so happens that fighting is actually random and not a solid equation of set in stone skills

that fight might have been 1 in 100 but either way Windu won

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Sidious fans are still emotional about the L he took from Windu. I will reopen the wound every chance I get.


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I have always said his scarred him. Trolls pretend it didn't do what we see on screen. Your opinion is based off bias not my own.




And Mace was shrugging it off easily right?

He didn’t struggle scream or shout at all right?


You’re speculating and presenting it as fact, as per usual.

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Sidious fans are still emotional about the L he took from Windu. I will reopen the wound every chance I get.



Big talk from a Snoke fan laughing out loud

Snoke ain’t got shit on either Mace or Palpatine.

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And Mace was shrugging it off easily right?

He didn’t struggle scream or shout at all right?


You’re speculating and presenting it as fact, as per usual.
He did it. It wasn't easy per say but he achieved domination of Sidious in that scene. He was scarred in the scene which Sidious confirms via the senate. According to some his true ugliness was exposed figuratively to reflect his darker soul. Just relax and accept his L. Windu brought out the pain for old Sidious.


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Big talk from a Snoke fan laughing out loud

Snoke ain’t got shit on either Mace or Palpatine.
Snoke is on another level. Neither of these two can dominate someone of Rey's caliber with force power alone. Luke fell back and was taken back by her impressiveness. Facts support my conclusions whereas nothing supports yours. I was right that Snoke is the most powerful force user. I was also right about Yoda being s confirmed failure and Luke being a coward.

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He did it. It wasn't easy per say but he achieved domination of Sidious in that scene.



Lol he only achieved victory over the FL once Palpatine began “feigning weakness” as per GL.

So I’m still waiting for this “clear proof” that Windu would have come out on top if Palpatine kept trying.

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Snoke is on another level. Neither of these two can dominate someone of Rey's caliber with force power alone.



Neither Mace or Palpatine can dominate a Padawan? laughing

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Yeah, Sidious totally wasn't lying to the senate to convince them that the Jedi attempted assassination...


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Lol he only achieved victory over the FL once Palpatine began “feigning weakness” as per GL.

So I’m still waiting for this “clear proof” that Windu would have come out on top if Palpatine kept trying.
I have explained this to you many times. He feigned weakness because he didn't overpower him with fl. Once he realized that he changed tactics and feigned weakness as to manipulate Anakin which was his only out. You're a fanboy who can't be objective about anything Star Wars related. You're all feelings and who you like more in every thread.

I don't have to prove your case for you. We have the facts and Sidious losing. If you want to argue Sidious could have won make a case, kid.


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Neither Mace or Palpatine can dominate a Padawan? laughing
She was trained by Luke and her force power rose to counter Ren's. We also see Ren couldn't overpower her with the force directly after.

The word padawan means nothing it's just a poor attempt at you to discredit the portrayal of Rey. She resisted Ren before she even had powers and got into his head. Be consistent and quit being so emotional over these newer characters. You love the Ot far more than these characters but it's time to be objective.


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Yeah, Sidious totally wasn't lying to the senate to convince them that the Jedi attempted assassination...
Sidious used the situation to better manipulate the senate. He didn't lie about an assassination attempt. Windu deformed him and tried to assassinate him. We see it play out. You're another hopelessly biased fan incapable of objectivity.


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Or maybe the one person with crackpot views different to literally everybody else is the wrong one? Hmmmm...


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Or maybe the one person with crackpot views different to literally everybody else is the wrong one? Hmmmm...
Popularity has never proven anything. It's always about logic and the evidence. You are too biased to grasp what's right in front of you.


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This guy's hilarious.


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This guy's hilarious.
I am correct. Your bias is just your own weak mind trying to justify his embarrassing showing against Windu.


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Mace recognized that Darth Sidious' shatterpoint was his trust in Anakin.

In other words, while he did arrange for his duel with Mace, he certainly would've been screwed without Anakin's aid. Despite being the stronger Force-user.


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He realised that after he had Sidious on the floor, IIRC. Not during the fight.

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Sidious still overpowered or was about to overpower Windu with lightning, despite Windu's Vaapad being at full swing at that point. Sidious' lightning is described as powerful enough to actually overpower Vaapad.

So even if Sidious was legit disarmed through shatterpoint, his force powers are always going to trump Windu.


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Sidious still overpowered or was about to overpower Windu with lightning, despite Windu's Vaapad being at full swing at that point. Sidious' lightning is described as powerful enough to actually overpower Vaapad.

So even if Sidious was legit disarmed through shatterpoint, his force powers are always going to trump Windu.
No, sorry that doesn't make any sense especially when we see Sidious being arrogant and proclaiming his death to playing the victim because he was powerless to save himself. If he never threatened to kill him you'd have more weight to your case but since he switched positions it's logical to assume this was primarily due to the dire situation he realized he was in when he was unable to disarm Windu.


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