"Like who?"
Galactus, The hunger, Omega, Magus with the IG, Akhenaten, and recently Mephisto and Annihilus using Adam Warlock's power. A power that was used to kill Galactus and all the Celestials,
"Are you sure? Thanos wasn't even able to get up without struggling for one page and later admitted that Odin defeated him."
I'm positive, there have been many instances where Thanos has struggled to gather compusure after an attack. http://s12.postimg.org/7f0inst5p/tvsa4.jpg
He ended up beating Annihilus.
"It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands." All Thanosi, as stated in Infinity Abyss, were defective versions of himself. Also, I never once stated that Thanos had the upper hand in the battle. I stated that if the battle had continued, Odin with the extent of Odin force would have won. What I did state was that the battle was not a good indicator of each foe trying their hardest to beat each other. Odin did have the upper hand.......in a battle where Thanos wasn't trying to kill his opponent where the opposite is true.
"And Thanos is using his force field in the first panel." That wasn't his force field. His personal force fields look like this. http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/.../energy8qa2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ESmmjgn.jpg
If it doesn't say or look like he's using his personal force fields which appear as bubbles around him), then he probably isn't using it.
"Yes, Thanos was really trying to calm Odin down with those energy attacks. GTFO."
Why would Thanos try to harm and or kill the person they came to asgard to get help from?
Odin saw his son being brought to Asgard imprisoned in a block of pure force. the comic makes it very evident why Thanos was fighting Odin.
So you blatantly ignore the comic itself, even after i posted the scans where it specifically says Exactly what i'm saying?
may I ask why you disagree with my interpretation of the Odin/ Thanos fight? I don't feel it's an interpretation as much as it is what really happened. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...rlock_25_19.jpg
Adam "Odin! We come not in..."
Thanos "Forget reasoning with this pompous buffoon, Warlock."
Thanos "Explanations can only come after we have gained Odin's undivided attention"
Odin "There is no way to talk yourself out of this situation, villain!"
Surfer "I see what you mean"
Moondragon "This entire enterprise has gone sour Adam! We came here to get Odin's aid in curing Thor's insanity, not start a war with Asgard."
Adam" Be it my fault Odin misunderstood our intetnions and never gave us the chance to explain?"
http://static9.comicvine.com/upload...rlock_25_24.jpg
There is a lot to quote there, but it's basically Odin talking about how he is going to make sure Thanos is dead by the end of the battle. This scan even shows Thanos's blast staggering Odin.
The actual scans will have to disagree with you there. Tyrant blasted Thanos around even when he had the orb with the power of Morg. He had his armor blasted off. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...25_34_super.jpg
There is almost no damage done to him here. Again, Thanos fled Tyrant after getting what he wanted out of him. http://static8.comicvine.com/upload...rlock_25_35.jpg
This scan shows Thanos, charged up and ready to go. However, he no longer needed to because he had succeeded in calming Odin down.
"And a lot of prep. The blasts wouldn't have done much against Galactus."
He did not have a lot of prep. He arrived on the Rigellian home world to repay the destruction he caused them by aiding them in whatever they needed. The planet had Galactus on it. Thanos realized something was off about the situation and constructed a plan. Galactus figured out that Thanos was up to something after Moondragon provided a telepathic link up. Galactus planned against Thanos. Thanos figured out that Galactus was being manipulated into letting he Hunger in.
The blast weren't meant to do anything to Galactus, they were meant to destroy his ship to stop him from opening the portal. So no, he didn't have "tons of prep", he had less than a day.
"Because Thanos is an idiot. Did you see him against Doom? Such a prep master."
Him using allies with special abilities instead of risking his own neck to to dangerous things makes him an idiot? He'd be an idiot not using them. Key word, using. Half the time he works with anyone they are just instruments in a grander scheme. With the lone acceptation of Adam Warlock. Also, Galactus has used allies in the past. He used Doctor Strange to help him find out the source of the Magus's signal, even though he could have built a device to do it himself. I feel it a little ridiculous to say that using allies to complete something faster is idiotic.
Doom wielded the power of the Beyonder. I've expressed many times how i feel about a few writers treat Thanos. Starlin is not the only one who writes him as he was created to be. Keith Giffen, Ron Marz, Dan Abnett and
Andy Lannin are all good examples. He is only appearing in these other comics because of his appearances in the MCU. However, that has nothing to to with the topic at hand.
"That's not helpful for Thanos. He had specefic shields for Galactus and still got shit blasted out of him."
He never had "specific shields" for Galactus. Those were merely his shields. Against a Celestial, it would be for a short while. It took blows from a fed Galactus, and a being two times as powerful as that (Omega). It could tank a blow from an average Celestial.
"Because Hunger was an idiot. Galactus as well.
That's what happens when you are in a Starlin comic and are not Thanos."
I wouldn't call a being who knew that in order to enter the universe, he had to trick a being whose drive and ability were up to the task of building the Focusing Crux fast enough so that he could enter the universe. He had to manipulate Galactus's own data and then bet his money on the fact that Galactus would be too arrogant to listen to anyone else. Something that has been the downfall of Galactus many times. After entering the Universe, he would use the power of the gems and Galactus's ship to devour enough power so that he wouldn't be stopped by a powerful creature right off the bat. Galactus was arrogant, not stupid. Galactus acted rash due to him finding out that the Infinity Gems would rid him of his hunger, something that has bothered Galactus since the beginning of his character. How was the Hunger supposed to know that Thanos was secretly plotting against it the entire time? Thanos had purposely made it look like he was fighting off Galactus so that the Hunger wouldn't expect any resistance when it was released? Not to mention, regardless of your opinion on Starlin comics, what happened has happened. There are many people who claim that everyone in a Starlin comic acts stupid around Thanos. I really haven't found this to be the case. Just because other characters can't outsmart Thanos does not then therefore imply that they're stupid. I've actually noticed that Starlin comics are typically where incredibly complex plots and plans are enacted by many heroes and villains.
" Of course it is. Thanos got the upgrades and still got his shit pushed in against Ultimates of all people.
Thanos lost against Odin. Get over it."
No, it's not. The evidence I pointed out above proves this. If you are referring to Civil War 2, then you should know two things. One, Thanos was weakened from the whole Secret Wars event. Two, the writer was Brian Michael Bendis, a writer infamous for his mistreatment of character personalities and established power levels. Three, Thanos getting captured was revealed to be part of his plan, as a new series is soon to be released. Not to mention, Odin was beaten by female Thor. http://i.imgur.com/LFQ59Az.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nJjN570.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FP5nTL7.jpg
We can both find instances where the characters are jobbers. I feel it is best to stick to the actual debate at hand.
I also do not tolerate your attitude towards me. Your usage of words is disrespectful and unneeded. This is a debate about fictional characters. I will not respond to you if you continue to be rude.
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"It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands."
Also, I wouldn't be so hasty to assume Statements over feats and actual scans. For Example, here Thanos says he stood toe to toe with Galactus, which as we the readers can see is hardly the case. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...orion/tvsa7.jpg
Not only is that a Thanosi, which again are imperfect replications of Thanos himself, we can hardly trust character statements as being accurate when they are discussing their interpretation of how a battle went down.
Thanos can't beat a celestial. At best he can replicate his showing against galactus which was pretty good for a non-Devine powered character, like none of thanos' powerset crosses into the metaphysical as far as offense is concerned, at least nothing compared to the galactus vs Odin fight.
You can feel whatever you want but the truth is Thanos barely survived that fight he was beaten near death. If Odin continued his assault instead of asking Thanos if he yields I'm 100% sure he would have died it was only a matter of time.
Okay, hold up. It's not how I feel about it, what I previously listed is what actually happened. Thanos wasn't nearly dead nor did he "get the shit beaten out of him". He didn't have the upper hand in the battle, and I've posted the motivations behind each character several times now. Would Thanos have won the battle had it been BOTH of them been trying to kill each other? No! I never once said that. But people claiming he beat Thanos to near death is an exaggeration of what happened. Thanos knows when he's done fighting. He has shown this with Tyrant, who did far more damage to Thanos than Odin did. On the next page it literally (as I have posted twice now) it literally shows Thanos getting ready to fight again.
After Odin relented and gave Thanos time to recuperate. The man was sprawled out on the floor it took him time to stand up he struggled to get on his feet. If Odin were a crooked piece of shat he would have kill Thanos then and there without asking him if he gives up. This is why i say your interpretation is jacked up Odin literally had the uperhand considering Thanos was on his hand in knees like he was praying to his lord and savior which he really was look at him blinded by the awesome power that is Odin king of heatbutts!
Haha, what an excuse. It has nothing to do with Thanos. Its all a fault of MCU!!!!
Yes, they were his specific shields. Against Omega he used his ship's shields as well.
My god, I have never seen someone actually buying this shit. Galactus was fooled from his own tech, didn't now how to operate his own tech, got humiliated everytime in the comic and couldn't even teleport away from two planets.
What complex plots? Blow this shit up?
Never happened.
That's some compelling proof. no really.
You mean where Odin has Jane by the throat at the end? Yeah, Jane did better than Thanos as well.
Yep, so you once again try to disprove actual facts from the comics with your opinion. I have now considered your opinion invalid and unworthy of any attention. Not only that, but you refused to lay back on your annoyingly rude attitude. I figured out after some research that this is normally how you post. You using abusive ad hominems against me is something I refuse to be a part of. I have disproven all of your statements against my claims, you retorted with insults and interpretations based on your opinion. For the remainder of my time on this site, I will ignore you and your annoying post. Congratulations.
Odin didn't strike him down because Odin is an honorable warrior. Saying that Odin could have killed him at that point is a little presumptuous. Odin admitted that Thanos was a worthy foe, so offering him a chance to admit defeat may have been a sign of mercy. Of course, Thanos stood back up in defiance indicating that he still had a fight left in him, proven by the next scan. This is similar to earlier in the battle when Odin thinks himself victorious before Thanos blast himself out of the rubble.
However, if that's how you wish to interpret it, so be it. I may disagree, and I have provided the evidence necessary to support my claim. But if you choose to interpret it a different way, then there is nothing left to discuss.
Technically not, no. Pluto is a dwarf planet, and technically so would it's moon Charon. There is talk of a jovian planet on the outskirts of our solar system that is around the size of Neptune. There may also be a dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt.
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