good thing they were all casually smacking him around and he didn't show even a tenth of the skill that Matt has demonstrated over the years right? It's even better that his big plan to win consisted of running away from bane. Oh, and by the way, you're going to have to give me some actual feats for his henchmen and how strong they were (venom affects everyone in a different way)
I'm not saying that it's easy, but he daredevil cam and has tied up other characters in the middle of a fight and Calvin simply hasn't demonstrated the sort of skill that's needed to beat matt.
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BTW, the skill edge gap isn't that big. Calvin DID fight the Birds of Prey by himself and that lineup included STRIX. Strix was strong enough to best Lady Shiva.
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Calvin also held back against Batgirl and managed to get the best out of her.
are people with healing factors immune to getting KO'd now? Matt breaks his arms, his legs, his trachea, his spine, and ties him up while he continues to bash his head into the ground. Let's not forget that Matt has experience with fighting people with healing factors. Oh, and while we're at it, what edge in stats (other than healing) does Calvin have and what proof do you have to back that up?
Not immune but Bane and his henchmen were unable to. Strix was unable to and she's pretty much Daredevil lite in terms of skills. Talons have been known to fall from skyscrapers and not been KO'd.
In terms of stats, Talons are stronger and faster. The average Talon proved more than a match for Batman. That he needed armor to fend them off./
ha. William Cobb (one of the more impressive talons) was pretty much dead long enough for the cops to arrive, the paramedics to call it, and was only up and about after he was safely packed into the ambulance. What do you call that?
Again, show me the feats to back that sort of statement up.
Scans of this fight?
I just showed you the scans. Both strix and Talon fell off of a skyscraper and Strix, then Calvin just walked it off and continued to fight. The same Strix that owned and broke Lady Shiva's arm in a HTH combat. Read the Talon series for more. His stats are indeed enhanced.
yeah.......she got up first and he didn't. Not a good example of how difficult to ko he is. That second fight with her also isn't a good example of how skilled he is because she's literally running away when he stabs her and she's clearly preoccupied with something else. It's not like Matt is suddenly going to be out of his depth when he fights a character with a healing factor, and he's almost certainly going to hear Calvin's bones knitting themselves back together.
Also, what has shiva actually done in the new 52? She got one shotted by Jason Todd FFS. She's clearly still in the upper echelon of the street levelers, but it kind of hurts her reputation when she gets downed by Jason in a single panel.
I never said he was, but you still haven't proved that Matt can KO someone with higher stats and a healing factor to boot. Shiva got the best of Batman and Nightwing. She's top tier in skill.
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