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Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) vs Satele Shan (Grandmaster)
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Emperordmb
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Originally posted by |King Joker|
Ahsoka beats the shit out of her.


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I see. Your concerns are now known to me, my son. I won't pick up Satele's banner, though, because it's a terrible banner to carry. It's like arguing for Saesee Tiin, except even more monotonous. It's just awful all around, really.


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NewGuy01
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Wow, that guy looks really upset. What's that even from?


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Oh, and also:

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Worst part is that I don't even know what he's shaking his headinvoking demonic rage at. At an Ahsoka victoryThe implication that I would be willing to argue against Ahsoka if it weren't Satele? At comparing Ahsoka to ArynAt the fact that I don't like working with Satele? Or contesting Satele>ArynOr that I don't like working with Saesee? All of the above? None of the above and he's just bein' a *****? I don't even know, I don't even know. Bing-bangXtasy, come on and sit on my lap and tell me what's troubling you.


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Macgruber lol


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Tano, certainly.


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Selenial
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Yeh, Satele wins force.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Here you point to X's failures as proof Y can take him.

Now it seems you redefined your way of thinking. Interesting.

Once a retard. Always a retard. thumb up
By what, pointing to Satele's failings (against Malgus) as proof Vader would smash her? Right, sounds the same to me. That's quite a lot different from claiming that X can do as good as Y against Z because Y did, which is yes, laughably circular.


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Originally posted by |King Joker|
Ahsoka beats the shit out of her.
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Selenial
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Except suggesting her loss to Malgus is directly translatable into a worse loss against Vader is flawed.

Both Ahsoka and Satele were staggered by their opponents strength and were using Force Speed to get around it. The only difference in their fights is that Malgus readily employed the Force and used it to gain an advantage, where the majority of Vader and Ahsoka's fight was just duelling.

Don't get me wrong, Ahsoka's feat is better, but you can't use Malgus to suggest Satele couldn't replicate it. Especially a prime Satele...


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Once yeah, but Malgus being too fast was the reason she lost, that on top of being brought to her knees in a blade lock which she needed to pull a tree down to escape indicates to me that she was much more pressed by his (weaker) offense than Ahsoka, and no way would have lasted more than 1:30 if Malgus had not readily used the Force.

On the reverse side, there is every argument to made that Ahsoka would have won against Hope Malgus so yeah, its a poor performance for Satele.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Once yeah, but Malgus being too fast was the reason she lost, that on top of being brought to her knees in a blade lock which she needed to pull a tree down to escape indicates to me that she was much more pressed by his (weaker) offense than Ahsoka, and no way would have lasted more than 1:30 if Malgus had not readily used the Force.

On the reverse side, there is every argument to made that Ahsoka would have won against Hope Malgus so yeah, its a poor performance for Satele.


Again, no, because the main reason Satele lost was because Malgus could match her speed. Canon Vader genuinely doesn't have the Speed feats while duelling to warrant the same conclusion, IMHO.


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You mean surpass, yeah. And Vader stonewalling Grievous 2.0 and fighting in tandem with Darth Sidious (even if the latter wasn't going all out) >>> Hope Malgus. thumb up


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While in that bladelock Satele was able to hold Malgus off with one hand, recall. And hold him off when she was grabbing his lightsaber, despite him applying so much pressure his blade was cracking.

Ahsoka is weaker than Satele in the Force, when considering Sateles feats of shattering blast doors, crushing Hex droids and grabbing lightsaber blades.

Also depending on the incarnation, Satele can teleport.


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Beniboybling
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His blade was "cracking" because of her tutanimis lol, lightsabers aren't that shit.


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Nephthys
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Why would it crack because of that? Tutaminis wouldn't produce that kind of strain on the blade.


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Because it was absorbing the energy and therefore destablising the blade?


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1. Ahsoka Tano
2. Satele Shan
3. Satele Shan

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
Satele wouldn't even register as a footnote on pre-ANH Vader's radar.

Based on?

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Originally posted by Trocity
Satele got shat on by Malgus every time she fought him, I'm going with Ahsoka.

So loosing to Darth Malgus implies that Satele Shan cannot defeat another powerful opponent? erm

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