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By what, pointing to Satele's failings (against Malgus) as proof Vader would smash her? Right, sounds the same to me. That's quite a lot different from claiming that X can do as good as Y against Z because Y did, which is yes, laughably circular.
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Except suggesting her loss to Malgus is directly translatable into a worse loss against Vader is flawed.
Both Ahsoka and Satele were staggered by their opponents strength and were using Force Speed to get around it. The only difference in their fights is that Malgus readily employed the Force and used it to gain an advantage, where the majority of Vader and Ahsoka's fight was just duelling.
Don't get me wrong, Ahsoka's feat is better, but you can't use Malgus to suggest Satele couldn't replicate it. Especially a prime Satele...
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Once yeah, but Malgus being too fast was the reason she lost, that on top of being brought to her knees in a blade lock which she needed to pull a tree down to escape indicates to me that she was much more pressed by his (weaker) offense than Ahsoka, and no way would have lasted more than 1:30 if Malgus had not readily used the Force.
On the reverse side, there is every argument to made that Ahsoka would have won against Hope Malgus so yeah, its a poor performance for Satele.
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Again, no, because the main reason Satele lost was because Malgus could match her speed. Canon Vader genuinely doesn't have the Speed feats while duelling to warrant the same conclusion, IMHO.
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You mean surpass, yeah. And Vader stonewalling Grievous 2.0 and fighting in tandem with Darth Sidious (even if the latter wasn't going all out) >>> Hope Malgus.
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Last edited by Beniboybling on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 11:54 AM
While in that bladelock Satele was able to hold Malgus off with one hand, recall. And hold him off when she was grabbing his lightsaber, despite him applying so much pressure his blade was cracking.
Ahsoka is weaker than Satele in the Force, when considering Sateles feats of shattering blast doors, crushing Hex droids and grabbing lightsaber blades.
Also depending on the incarnation, Satele can teleport.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 12:21 PM