Winter Soldier did not have any of those ancillary characters in it. Yet the Russos almost doubled the box office from Cap1.
If you think any director could have done what Ruusos did for Cap, then youre simply kidding yourself.
Is Black Panther a sequel or a remake? Is Avatar? Is Titanic?
Honestly not sure if you think out your so called facts sometimes.
Gotcha. So why is WBs largest brand hitting a Billion such a big deal now?
Winter Soldier did not have those Avengers in it.
Also you are seriously downplaying the Russos achievement here of introducing us to Black Panther and the MCU Spider-Men in Civil War, both of whom became massively popular from that film.
And dont tell me BP and SM are all the same franchise either Lmao.
Its not that simple. With a larger domestic gross, not as much is needed worldwide to be profitable.
You, Me and Dupree was definitely profitable.
You denial is just that.
If they get a 2nd movie to hit the $2billion mark then they will be an exclusive club with James Cameron as the only other member. They are already in the exclusive $2bill club alongside Cameron and Abrams.
So now it was an already established brand?
Jeez make up your mind. You are all over the place.
Was the DCEU an established and successful brand already prior to Aquaman or not?
Make up you mind, and quit flip flopping according to what you are arguing in the moment.
Pretty sure Winter Soldier and Infinity War are 2 VERY Different franchises. Not to mention 2 Very Different films.
Being part of the same continuity doesnt make them the same. Unless you are claiming Man of Steel and Wonder Woman are the same franchise?
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Where did I say, "any". I said many directors can, and there are out there. I didn't say WS, I said Civil War. Civil War is the Russo's 2nd highest film, and Wan will eventually take that over. Wan's Aquaman run is more spectacular than either of the 2, which the Russo's had the luxury of buildup. Wan didn't really have that, AND he still did a billion. Underdog, baby.
It IS a fact. You certainly need spoon feeding. I was using this guys post, which is correct:
We can look in other sense. Aquaman will end #20 WW and one of the 24 films which have done $1.1b, a not very exclusive club... but how many of the 19 films which are over Aquaman are not sequels/remakes? Avatar, Titanic, Black Panther and Frozen. Just 4 original films. So Aquaman will be the 5th biggest original film ever. Not bad I guess...
Already been over this. It's still a milestone, especially with an unknown character, while following toxic films before it. Wan pulled it off. Impressive.
No shit. CV did.
And you downplay Wan's. Go figure.
You're getting established mixed up with successful. DCEU is an ESTABLISHED brand, not a successful one yet. At least with the critics and GA/WOM. Come on, man. Not hard to understand. Despite making solid numbers, the DCEU doesn't have the good will that the MCU had BEFORE the Russo's came on board.
FFS, MAN. They are the SAME franchise, already pointed out in the Variety article. James Wan is in an elite club that he and James Cameron in.
You, Me and Dupree was considered a disappointment at the BO, as was pointed out by the-numbers.com. It wasn't very profitable, and not even in the same class as Wan's successful low budget horror movies. Come back to me when the Russo's have success OUTSIDE of the MCU.
You mentioning You, Me and Dupree in the same sentence with Wan.
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No, I was correcting false allegations that the Russos have had NO SUCCESS out side of the MCU, and your insinuation that Marvel movies is all they can do.
Get back to me when Wan does a $2billion film. And Watch out because the Russos might be coming up on two of them. Even if not certainly another 1.5bill+.
Or just when he makes a film as good as quality as Winter Soldier
Last edited by Darth Thor on Jan 15th, 2019 at 08:01 PM
No need to be salty. You haven't given me any movies outside of You, Me and Dupree, and that move did 20% on RT and bombed at the BO.
While Wan SUCCESSFULLY reinvented the horror genre and helped spawn a shit load of sequels for multiple horror franchises. Like I said earlier, night and day. Come back to me when the Russo's do that outside of the MCU.
You're defending a director who has yet to prove themselves outside of the MCU. That's pretty salty, baby. I've already proven to you who has had the overall better career. and it's Wan.
I called it out on the guys who claim Civil War was a solo movie, and now Im calling out your nonesense that Wan is Objectively > Russos despite the Russos having the bigger box office and making the better films (subjective but pretty universally agreed upon unlike your assertion).
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