__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
AP single handedly destroyed my opinion of the character by lying about feats and using false sources.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Closer to Sidious than Vader IMO but he's not going to beat Sheev.
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Lmfao, stop pretending you're doing anything but trolling.
As far as Solo goes, ten months of advancement, where there is no hint in Darksaber of anything actually having occurred, besides Dorsk 81 stopped being a chicken shit. You're claiming that they massively increased in power despite no evidence to support it.
You're just theorising, which is absolutely irrelevant in the face of the fact that they were described as having collectively unlocked a power far greater than anything they could have even comprehended, when facing Exar Kun in a meld.
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Besides the fact, that they had far greater feats in DarkSaber than they did in any source before? Besides the fact, that they were factually not through with their training, and had yet to be knighted?
As I said before - it doesn't really matter. What Starkiller did in utterly crushing a horde of reasonably powerful clones with a single TK surge, is just as impressive, if not more so.
Vader was his equal, before becoming "far more formidable" in ESB, and further advanced that power by RotJ.
AP I want to undeestand a bit regarding Kun>Jedi meld group. Are you trying to say Kun scales from that groups feat of TKing a fleet of Star destroyers? Not trying to be condenscending I just want to clearly understand your argument regarding that.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
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By any source before, do you mean the whole of no books with their appearance since JA? Darksaber is their first major appearance since the trilogy.
Why do you insist they aren't done with their training, when they get knighted by Luke, who states they are near masters of all the teachings he has to give, just days after Kun's defeat?
A crowd of unprepared clones, all of whom are busy fighting each other, is certainly not as impressive as a prepared, focused and melded team of Kam Solusar, Streen, Brakiss, Cilghal, Kirana Ti, Tionne Solusar, Dorsk 81, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Luke's spirit and Vodo's spirit.
Nor is the difference between ESB Vader and ROTJ Vader, anywhere near as large as the difference between an exhausted shade of Exar Kun with no sources of energy and the prime Exar Kun weilding an amulet.
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Nah, Dorsk 81 amped by a temple and weilding the power of thirty knights would be even more powerful than that. But that isn't really relevant to the point.
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Kun is top 10 in all honesty probs top 5. Pre ROTS he was the strongest tho
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
I mean they had the entire JA trilogy, as was as a re-telling of the events of the story in I, Jedi, tbf. Did they show anything close to what was shown in Darksaber in the feat department?
Hmm, my bad, then. Fair enough on that front.
Don't see how those clones were "unprepared" when they were fighting, KEK. Intrinsic Force shields are pretty much automatic, and given they were in combat, their guard should have generally been up for direct, or stray telekentic attacks. Granted, they would have prolly survived had they had time to throw up shields a la Kas'im v Bane, but given they were Galen clones, possessing the all the attributes of the original, to a lesser, and some to an even greater extent --- it's still monstrous in spite, if they did, or didn't.
Maybe not, but the combative growth between Vader as of TFU, and RotJ was astronomical regardless according to sources.
Jul 25th, 2016 12:08 AM
