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Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Deadshot wound batman ?


I didn't say anything about Batman?

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I didn't say anything about Batman?
So the one time he's up against someone credible he doesn't even wound him. Evidence >>>your fanboyism.


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So the one time he's up against someone credible he doesn't even wound him. Evidence >>>your fanboyism.



Hahahaah shut the f*ck up, Quan.

You mean after getting sneak attacked by Batman while he was having a good shopping night with his 12 year old daughter, fist fighting a guy with super strength in an armored suit, shooting said guy(with what would have been a kill shot) and having his bullet bounce off because he's also bulletproof? And then when he was about to shoot him in his wide open mouth, his daughter got in the way. He still could've shot him, but he didn't because he didn't want his daughter to see him kill a man. We all know this, even you, you just don't like it that Batman got saved by a pre-teen.

Context>>>>>>Your idiocy

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Originally posted by h1a8
There is no evidence that Cap has the ability to know what DS is pointing from 50m away. A few millimeters difference in aim is the difference between a head shot and a groin shot from 50m away. From up close then you have a point. Cap as proven capable at h2h range to trace the aim and one has to shift their aim a significant distance to go from head to legs from h2h distance.


Difference is, we have feats of Cap doing more difficult kicks than axe kick. DS doesn't even have any feat of shooting someone actively avoiding getting shot, let alone someone with a shield, let alone shooting them in the legs, let alone someone like Cap.


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Difference is, we have feats of Cap doing more difficult kicks than axe kick. DS doesn't even have any feat of shooting someone actively avoiding getting shot, let alone someone with a shield, let alone shooting them in the legs, let alone someone like Cap.


I'm the one who posted the thing about the axe kick, but stop ignoring the point. We never see Cap axe kick, but I don't yearn for visual proof that he can, because it's well within his capabilities. The world's most accurate marksman doesn't need feats of shooting people in the legs to be able to aim own and shoot them in the leg, because it's well within his capabilities. Ozy's the smartest man in his world, but I don't need to see him prove a math equation to prove it, because he did other brilliant things; it's well within his capabilities. I don't need to see Deadshoot kneecap a guy because I've seen him headshot over 40 running, moving erratically creatures, at night by himself with an automatic pistol strapped to the side of his arm.

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Hahahaah shut the f*ck up, Quan.

You mean after getting sneak attacked by Batman while he was having a good shopping night with his 12 year old daughter, fist fighting a guy with super strength in an armored suit, shooting said guy(with what would have been a kill shot) and having his bullet bounce off because he's also bulletproof? And then when he was about to shoot him in his wide open mouth, his daughter got in the way. He still could've shot him, but he didn't because he didn't want his daughter to see him kill a man. We all know this, even you, you just don't like it that Batman got saved by a pre-teen.

Context>>>>>>Your idiocy
So in the heat of the moment he didn't analyze and shoot the clear opening around his mouth. Gotcha. Your fanboyism centered around feats against zombies or an unsuspecting foe with a clear shot isn't going to cut it against Cap who has deflected gunfire in the midst of a battle against foes with super strength as well. Cap didn't have a gun. DS did.

So he tried to shoot batman prior to her getting in the middle. He's emotionally weak as well as being inept. You want him to win because of a certain reason, bro.

Cap wins. Deal with it, brother.


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So in the heat of the moment he didn't analyze and shoot the clear opening around his mouth. Gotcha. Your fanboyism centered around feats against zombies or an unsuspecting foe with a clear shot isn't going to cut it against Cap who has deflected gunfire in the midst of a battle against foes with super strength as well. Cap didn't have a gun. DS did.

So he tried to shoot batman prior to her getting in the middle. He's emotionally weak as well as being inept. You want him to win because of a certain reason, bro.

Cap wins. Deal with it, brother.


Oh Quan. You ever wonder why nobody ever agrees with you? It's because you're wrong on purpose. Hell your name used to be Quan The Antagonist. Your opinion means shit brah, ask around.

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Originally posted by KingD19
I'm the one who posted the thing about the axe kick, but stop ignoring the point. We never see Cap axe kick, but I don't yearn for visual proof that he can, because it's well within his capabilities. The world's most accurate marksman doesn't need feats of shooting people in the legs to be able to aim own and shoot them in the leg, because it's well within his capabilities. Ozy's the smartest man in his world, but I don't need to see him prove a math equation to prove it, because he did other brilliant things; it's well within his capabilities. I don't need to see Deadshoot kneecap a guy because I've seen him headshot over 40 running, moving erratically creatures, at night by himself with an automatic pistol strapped to the side of his arm.


I don't think you understood my post. We don't need proof that Cao can do an axe kick because he has plenty feats of doing more complex kicks, even while in combat.

Now name me a feat that DS has done that is more difficult than shooting the legs at someone with Cap's stats who is blocking with a shield.


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Oh Quan. You ever wonder why nobody ever agrees with you? It's because you're wrong on purpose. Hell your name used to be Quan The Antagonist. Your opinion means shit brah, ask around.
People agree with me all the time and use my same points as well. The evidence matters which you ignore. I care about the evidence but you care about your own personal bias. DS loses to Cal and Bucky. Accept reality, nerd.


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Oh Quan. You ever wonder why nobody ever agrees with you? It's because you're wrong on purpose. Hell your name used to be Quan The Antagonist. Your opinion means shit brah, ask around.


Excellent post!

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Excellent post!

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Difference is, we have feats of Cap doing more difficult kicks than axe kick. DS doesn't even have any feat of shooting someone actively avoiding getting shot, let alone someone with a shield, let alone shooting them in the legs, let alone someone like Cap.


Cap won't be actively be preventing DS from shooting him in the legs. He would just run forward at DS with shield blocking his face and chest. Caps lower belly, groin, and legs will be exposed.


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I don't think you understood my post. We don't need proof that Cao can do an axe kick because he has plenty feats of doing more complex kicks, even while in combat.

Now name me a feat that DS has done that is more difficult than shooting the legs at someone with Cap's stats who is blocking with a shield.
Cap won't be blocking his legs or groin with the shield. If he does then he's not blocking his face. DS sees the shield in Caps hand before the bell rings. He's going to think aim for an exposed area before the bell even rings.


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Cap won't be actively be preventing DS from shooting him in the legs. He would just run forward at DS with shield blocking his face and chest. Caps lower belly, groin, and legs will be exposed.


LOL. You think you can just dictate what Cap will do in this scenario and that somehow makes it true?

Unfortunately for you, we actually have feats of Cap protecting his legs and feet with his shield. But there are no feats of DS shooting at legs and feet.

Cap's shield is also big enough to cover his entire torso. He can easily tuck his head behind the shield while completely covering his torso. And due to line of sight and bullet trajectory, his hips and groin would be effectively covered as well unless DS shoots while taking a knee. DS only has one gun in this scenario so he can only shoot at one area. He's not shooting at two different targets at the same time.

Still bottom line is this: Cap has numerous feats of defending against multiple gunfire, even a feat of him defending his legs. Name me ONE feat of DS shoooting at moving legs and feat. Until you post a feat, all you really have is wishful thinking and fanboy wetdreams.


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So h1's argument is that Cap is just going to stand there and let DS shoot him?


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Froth's argument is that Deadshot apparently loses all vision and sensory capabilities once you go below the waist.

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Froth's argument is that Deadshot apparently loses all vision and sensory capabilities once you go below the waist.


Let's not do this King, no exaggerations and outright lies please. My argument is that DS has no feats of shooting at targets in the movie that were actively trying to avoid getting hit. That's point 1. Point 2 is that he has no feats of shooting fast moving small targets like legs and feat. Point 3 is he has never shot at an opponent as enhanced as Cap with a shield where he had 100% accuracy. He went up against Batman and failed to hit him in unprotected areas.

Now if you believe I'm wrong, simply post the feats and I'll retract my arguments.


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LOL. You think you can just dictate what Cap will do in this scenario and that somehow makes it true?

Unfortunately for you, we actually have feats of Cap protecting his legs and feet with his shield. But there are no feats of DS shooting at legs and feet.

Cap's shield is also big enough to cover his entire torso. He can easily tuck his head behind the shield while completely covering his torso. And due to line of sight and bullet trajectory, his hips and groin would be effectively covered as well unless DS shoots while taking a knee. DS only has one gun in this scenario so he can only shoot at one area. He's not shooting at two different targets at the same time.

Still bottom line is this: Cap has numerous feats of defending against multiple gunfire, even a feat of him defending his legs. Name me ONE feat of DS shoooting at moving legs and feat. Until you post a feat, all you really have is wishful thinking and fanboy wetdreams.


Cap protected his legs in two types of scenarios. When he was turtled up (immobile) and when he was at close range against Bucky.

Cap will not be turtled up in this fight. He will be actively trying to close the distance through running. I can dictate that because it's based off Caps character and how he actually acted in the movie.

Cap can't block both his face and legs simultaneously if he's on the move. He only proven to be able to do so when he was fighting at close range. There is no evidence to suggest that Cap can aim block accurately from 50m away. If you disagree then please provide evidence of it.

Caps shield cannot cover his entire torso unless he is turtled up. When he is running forward his lower abdomen and groin are exposed as shown in the movies. If you disagree then show a scene where Cap is running forward and his groin is not exposed.

His quads would be a huge stationary target, even if he's running forward. Because they are not moving laterally at all.

You agree that if DS aims at Caps legs then he would be able to hit them right? If don't then why not?


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So h1's argument is that Cap is just going to stand there and let DS shoot him?
Basically. Cap would be moving forward which is equivalent to standing still.


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Let's not do this King, no exaggerations and outright lies please. My argument is that DS has no feats of shooting at targets in the movie that were actively trying to avoid getting hit. That's point 1. Point 2 is that he has no feats of shooting fast moving small targets like legs and feat. Point 3 is he has never shot at an opponent as enhanced as Cap with a shield where he had 100% accuracy. He went up against Batman and failed to hit him in unprotected areas.

Now if you believe I'm wrong, simply post the feats and I'll retract my arguments.
Cap will not be trying to prevent his legs from being shot unless he's in h2h range or turtled up.

Cap doesn't have the ability to know exactly where DS is aiming at from 50m away. How would he know to block his legs or his face?
The only way Cap can prevent from being shot in the legs is to block with the shield.

The Batman scenario is totally different here. DS will be 50m with a gun in his hand already (not concealed and holstered and standing next to Cap).


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