Kratos has Blades of Exile and his Magics
Kratos' Power level and physical abilities are equal to Thor
Thor is standard 616
His Blades of Exile has unlimited length
30 minutes of prep
No BFR
No Morals
Death or KO only
Location: Asgard
Who wins?
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Seriously though, Thor wins, assuming he has Mjolnir, which has abilities that would give him the win. If not, then Kratos.
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If physical abilities are equalized as per the thread rules, Thor does not stomp at all.
Thor's esoteric abilities are not quick to use, nor does he use them very often.
And Kratos has come across the main ones that Thor is likely to try (Soul Steal, energy drain, Time manipulation), and since he gets leveled up to match Thor, his resistances would too.
At starting distances, I actually give Kratos the win here more often than not.
He uses his powers accordingly. Nonsense, he used his esoteric abilities against the Surfer to break even at least a couple of times, which would be par for Thor, or his average battle prowess. Kratos has his blades, but they can't stop storms capable of tearing worlds apart! The reason that the Hulk can do it, is because he continues to toughen as he grows stronger, with a healing factor that mitigates at least 89% of the damage that he takes, which will continue to shrink as he grows stronger.
The Hulk is the ultimate tank at higher levels. This actually says a lot about just how tough Thor is. or what are you saying, that a guy (Hulk) that shifts entire tectonic plates from a planet over twice the size of Earth would have a tough time one shot busting every creature in GOW? Thor can move a lot of real estate, not to mention that he has air superiority. In all honesty, this is his fight to lose.
Most of what you are talking about here is pretty irrelevant due to the stips.
Uh, no. Pretty dishonest of you really Neither Thor or Surfer's fights against each other get really esoteric. They fly, and blast each other, Thor will hit him with his mallet. Sometimes there will be head butts or punches. The writers keep their fights against each other simple and straightforward for the most part.
Kratos uses his versatility more often then Thor does, quite frankly. Partly because its a video game and the developers want you to use everything at your disposal so they give you reasons and opportunities too.
Regardless, the point was even if Thor uses something like a soul drain, or energy drain or time manipulation, Kratos has already come across those exact things before and is capable of doing them himself.
Did you miss the part where Kratos is scaled up to Thor's stats?
Secondly:
The standard setting takes place in a void with no features. No world to destroy.
And this specific setting takes place in Asgard, which Thor will obviously not destroy.
If they were on some world that Thor did not care about then yeah, destroying the world would cause a problem because Kratos can't fly in space. But either way, causing world destroying storms is not as quick as slashing a guy with magically lengthening chain blades and weakening him greatly.
Queue the expected and unprompted Hulk monologuing into a topic he was never mentioned in and has little relevance to.
Also a fairly stupid of you to wax on about Hulk's strength relative to the GOWverse in a thread that's talking about a hypothetical fight between Kratos and Thor where they have equalized stats and power.
You seem to be incapable of comprehension and coherence when you sense the opportunity to talk about Hulk. All blood flees from your brain and you enter Carver mode.
Moving on from the red herring to the thread at hand.
Since you mentioned Hulk though---using that as a segway back to Kratos himself; He has dynamic strength as well due to rage. That's obvious just from playing the games themselves, but directors like Todd Papy have said they always try to present him as "Hulk in Superman's body", and one of the long-time art directors, Izzy Medrano, literally said Kratos uses rage as a fuel to boost his physical stats such as his strength, speed and reflexes and said this is something the rest of the verse in God of War cannot do and why he can triumph over anyone in the verse. Not as huge a multiplier as Hulk's obviously, but still a factor seeing as Thor doesn't have one himself.
So yes, Thor in this thread is dealing with someone that gets stronger as he gets madder in a fight. Someone that by the stips of the thread, is just as strong and tough to start with at the beginning of the fight.
Kratos also has a relatively better healing factor than Thor does too. Demi-Gods in general do in God of War.
Kratos allowed his brother Deimos to beat him to a pulp with a huge, magic spike knuckled gauntlet. To the point where the gauntlet broke from all the strain. Kratos was lying in a pool of blood and coughing up more, but he got up and after a few seconds he was fully healed with no injuries whatsoever.
Perseus, a fellow son of Zeus, gets stabbed deep in the gut by Kratos during their fight, spilling enough blood to fill a tub, lifted into the air while still impaled on Kratos' sword, then slammed down, he then has his sword snapped to pieces by Kratos, but gets up immediately and continues fighting with just his shield, as if he didn't just get stabbed deep in the vitals, losing a tub of blood, and slammed down while still impaled, losing even more blood.
Hercules, also another son of Zeus obviously, gets tackled by Kratos into a wall of huge spikes. Hercules just peels himself off the spikes despite them being more than long enough to puncture vitals. Hercules can also toss Kratos into those same wall of spikes and if that happens, Kratos just peels himself off of them the same way Hercules does, provided he's not already too weakened as is.
On the other hand, Thor's healing is not particularly fast acting enough to be reliable in the middle of a fight. We saw that from his fight with Wolverine. Wolverine is 5'3", and thus his claws are relatively small, and his aim would have naturally been off a bit since he was hallucinating and seeing Thor as Sabretooth. And even though Wolverine's claws are not long, and the fact that Thor was wearing armor to soften the slashes, Thor was still limping and nursing his wounds from the relatively small cuts that he did get.
So yes, Kratos has a semi-decent healing factor as well. Obviously nowhere fast as Hulk's or Wolvie's but still extremely helpful since its still faster than Thor's.
What makes it even worse for Thor, is that each time he gets slashed by one of Kratos' chained blades, he will not only get weaker from the pure bodily damage, but some of his life force will be drained and transferred to Kratos, healing Kratos even more. Yes, Kratos' blades are described as absorbing the life force from the target with each cut, and traveling up his wrists through the chains attached.
Anyway, here's how I see things going.
The typical starting distance is only 0.5 kilometers, or 500 meters. Thor will have to take a brief moment to swing his hammer to get airborne if he wants to fly. In that same instance Kratos can pull out Apollo's Bow and shoot infinite, constantly renewed arrows that are automatically notched and ready to fire.
Seeing as these arrows are being fired from a magic bow from a guy just as powerful as he is, Thor is already going to be taking serious damage from the get go. If he gets an arrow through the head, he would be down for the count.
Either way, it's much quicker and less cumbersome for Kratos to shoot his rapid fire infinite arrows than for Thor to wave Mjlonir to summon lightning bolts from the sky.
So even in the initial long range distance, Kratos will be fine to start with. He has Apollo's Bow. Hade's hooks which can extend for hundreds of meters, The Blade of Olympus which can shoot out lazers with every slash, or create waves of destruction. Kratos can also easily send Thor's blasts back at him by using the golden fleece.
Thor's flight is not of great consequence either since its something Kratos sees all the time. On the other hand, guys like Zeus that can fly, can also create multiple physical clones of himself and rapid fire teleport during a fight as well (which Thor cannot do).
Eventually the fight is going to come close though, since 500 meters is not far. And the closer it gets, the worse Thor's chances get;
Kratos is just as strong and tough in this thread, so a few Mjolnir blows are not going to do him in quickly. He'd just be getting hit by a magic blunt object by a guy on his level of strength, which would be nothing new for him, and he has a fairly combat practical healing factor on him anyway.
On the other hand, Thor will be getting slashed and stabbed by a huge magic blade from a guy just as strong as him. Obviously a lot deadlier than getting hit by a mallet from a guy of equal strength. This same magic blade, has leeching properties that will weaken Thor beyond just blood loss, it will drain his life force and heal Kratos at the same time.
Another reason why Kratos' chances increase tremendously in close quarters range: He towers over Thor. Thor is officially 6'6". Kratos is officially 8'6" (yes I know, crazy). Kratos is literally 2 feet taller, so his reach advantage over Thor is going to be huge. Mjolnir has a short reach as is, but Kratos chained blades are appropriately sized for his 8'6" frame, so they are quite long in absolute terms, on top of his long arms themselves. So Thor is getting stabbed and slashed well before he can land a blow with Mjolnir.
Which ****s him over a lot since getting stabbed by Kratos hurts him a lot worse than Kratos getting hit by Mjolnir in the chest or whatever.
Then of course Kratos could just switch to the Hades Hooks and try to pull Thor's soul out. If he simply stabs Thor once with them, he can start to do it, and since they are pretty much identical to his normal blades in normal fighting function since they are also attached to chains, there is no way Thor does not get hit at least once.
Of course Kratos could just say phuck it and use the Blade of Olympus from the get go. Which is also a leeching sword like chained blades, but also drains energy on top of life. On top of shooting out lazers, energy waves, and creating seemingly small country sized explosive storms with the Divine Retribution magic.
Up close, Kratos can also pull out Euryale's head and do an instant petrification AOE, and stab Thor in the head or anywhere else before he can break out of it.
Or he can pull out the Uroboros Gem and slow Thor down and **** him up with the free hits he would be getting.
Since he keeps everything in hammerspace, he can easily pull out any item that he hasn't given up.
Again, Kratos is scaled up to THOR here. So he's already as fast and as strong to begin with. He also has an active rage boost to get stronger and faster during the fight, which Thor does not have, and he also has a pretty good combat effective healing factor, which Thor does not have
He also readily uses his esoteric magic. Far more often than Thor does quite frankly. And he has resistances/feats against a lot of the same esoteric stuff, so at worst they just cancel each other out.
Thor's best chances are to try to create distance and pull off a God blast.
Lol text wall. Glad to see I really ate you up with my post. Thor wins. In case you were too slow to realize, Thor has had fights with Surfer, and the Hulk which is exactly why I brought them up. I also noticed that you didn't go on a tangent about the Surfer, but as soon as the Hulk is mentioned, kaboom, your poor top pops. No his magically lengthening chain isn't going to help him against a guy with air superiority. Thor has used flight in combat many times before, he has also use Mjolnir as a shield more times than can be counted. Kratos loses. Also, it doesn't take Thor a long time to summons storms capable of destroying entire worlds, nor does Kratos' rise in stats help much against attacks of that magnitude. LOL text wall.
You mentioned Surfer once, and basically gave two paragraphs specifically about the Hulk as if he was in this thread. I just found your homoeroticism to be amusing is all. Talking about one-shotting other verses in a thread where one guy is scaled up to match his main rival, so hilariously bad at reading, lol.
Anyway, glad to see you were completely incapable of addressing a single thing I said and just repeating yourself.
'Air superiority'. Lol.
Seeing as Thor cannot take off to fly before Kratos has time to attack him at standard distance, he will already start weakened and will continuously get worse.
If this started miles away, then yeah, Thor would win more often than not if he fights out of character and charges for a God Blast.
Seeing as this starts at standard distance of 500 meters, that gap will close instantly, Thor gets gutted and drained, either by the Blades of Exile, or the Blade of Olympus, or gets his soul taken.
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Last edited by CosmicComet on Aug 21st, 2016 at 12:22 AM
I'm so confused, this is a foreign cinema forum so why is a fight between a comic character and a video game character taking place here?
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