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Does a ban effect one forum, or the site?

Because I don't want Carver banned from here if it means he'll live on the anime forum. stick out tongue


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Sorry, just had to literally LOL here.

Tae Bo? As in, Billy Blanks and the power of Tae Bo??? And this was used to support Rand's skill?? Lol.

Wiki it. Please, I beg of anyone reading this thread.


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Sorry, just had to literally LOL here.

Tae Bo? As in, Billy Blanks and the power of Tae Bo??? And this was used to support Rand's skill?? Lol.

Wiki it. Please, I beg of anyone reading this thread.


I... got the reference.

Was hoping no one else would. stick out tongue

But hey, it proves Rand's so skilled he can turn anything, no matter how ridiculous, deadly. Probably has a book of the Sbaq Fu stored away.


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Does a ban effect one forum, or the site?

Because I don't want Carver banned from here if it means he'll live on the anime forum. stick out tongue


The site.


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I... got the reference.

Was hoping no one else would. stick out tongue

But hey, it proves Rand's so skilled he can turn anything, no matter how ridiculous, deadly. Probably has a book of the Sbaq Fu stored away.


Then team have no chance. Between Shaq Fu, Tae Bo and Bart Fu, Rand stomps them all.


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Sorry, just had to literally LOL here.

Tae Bo? As in, Billy Blanks and the power of Tae Bo??? And this was used to support Rand's skill?? Lol.

Wiki it. Please, I beg of anyone reading this thread.


I laughed out loud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tae_Bo

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Then team have no chance. Between Shaq Fu, Tae Bo and Bart Fu, Rand stomps them all.


+ Bartitsu ? embarrasment

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Not my intent to feat war this. Simply trying to prove Danny can take a beating and won't drop at the first gang attack. (Further supporting this, Luke Cage clocked berserk/evil Danny in the back of the head, as hard as he could, and only dropped him to his knee, conscious. So chi amping should raise durability.)

Anyways, I know Batman's no pushover in damage soak himself. He could give Frank Castle a run for his money, using his best stuff..

But unless the Bat Family packs secondary adamantium, how are they going to keep themselves from being taken out by Iron Fist spamming? You saw the Black Panther vs Danny scans, right? Only posted about a million times, until even I got sick of seeing them. smile

He was messed up pretty badly, and he had a vibranium suit.

So lets say all three surround Danny, move in, and launch an attack. Assume Danny takes a beating, but is with it enough to lash out with an IF.

If any of them take a direct hit, can you see them walking away? Or even if it's a glancing blow/near miss, the Iron Fist has chi trails and creates a sonic boom effect. In many, many Iron Fist stories of the past, he's taken entire groups with a single Fist. Batroc's Brigade, a mob of fifty people when Claremont sent him to "hell", a group of terrorist's in Danny and Luke's early team up's (Luke Cage was knocked down from the shockwave himself, from across the room.)

I'm just wondering how you see this fight playing out, that puts him at a disadvantage.

Maybe if Danny doesn't chi spam or use his IF... But are we assuming he fights "fair" and doesn't chi spam?


meh, i can post a hundred scans of batman fighting and beating characters who are superhuman, so i don't see danny being beyond anything bats himself has faced a million times over. thing is, when some of batman's best feats are raised they tend to get shouted down and people scream PIS because he's 'only human'. but it doesn't take much reading time to come to the quick conclusion--he is certainly NOT human--or not human in the sense we consider--he;s peak (better) COMIC BOOK human, and that is much different. humans don't boot steel doors down for fun, or kick trees in half, lift sarcophagi, dodge bullets. and it can be argued cass is BETTER than he is and dick is close to him.

as for how they keep from being taken out--well, they CAN dodge and block (BP blocked several hits), but they also have weapons that no one really seems to want to take into account. weapons capable of taking down grundy and amazo if need be. not to mention gas and a bunch of other stuff.

batman vs IF on his own would be far from an easy fight for danny (hell, look at the thread and see for yourself)--no way in hell i see danny walking through cap, likewise i don't see him walking through bats. add in a cass and dick who each have some crazy feats on their own?

sorry bro, no way imo he beats all 3 at once. too smart, too skilled, too much teamwork and too many weapons they can break out if necessary.

btw bats best damage soak feats are much better than frank's, least imo. /shrug


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sorry, just had to literally LOL here.

Tae Bo? As in, Billy Blanks and the power of Tae Bo??? And this was used to support Rand's skill?? Lol.

Wiki it. Please, I beg of anyone reading this thread.


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Then team have no chance. Between Shaq Fu, Tae Bo and Bart Fu, Rand stomps them all.


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Then team have no chance. Between Shaq Fu, Tae Bo and Bart Fu, Rand stomps them all.


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I laughed out loud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tae_Bo


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+ Bartitsu ? embarrasment


These scrubs not understanding the SUPERIOR fighting styles of Billy Blanks fitness instructor, and it's unmatched supremacy even among the likes of Black Panther.

Billy Blanks is obviously one of the best of the best in 616.

Niggas hatin' on his swaggity swag.

By the way, RealityWarper don't you have some threads you need to reply to or should I take your absence of a reply as a concession?

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1) Someone was asked to stop bikering with me. It seems that the message didn't reach.

2) On topic everyone on the team can easily solo and beat Danny Rand considering he isn't even in the same tier than Wolverine and Captain America when it comes to the combat skills, meaning that he isn't even close to Batman, Cassandra Cain and Batwing neither...

In short, the team stomps hard.

3) I guess that every logical fallacies would have been used against my arguments but this one is pretty obvious.

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I... got the reference.

Was hoping no one else would. stick out tongue

But hey, it proves Rand's so skilled he can turn anything, no matter how ridiculous, deadly. Probably has a book of the Sbaq Fu stored away.


Also, what cdtm here said. Danny is able to take anything that's not atypically used in a fight and turn into a deadly fighting style. So much so that even Black Panther asked him to teach him.

Which is what's relevant there.

I figured that was obvious.

There is also defeating Mr. X's telepathy by using a drunken fighting style.

Thunderbolts #37

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Defeating Shin Kuei.

Heroes for Hire #19

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And Black Tarantula: Power Man and Iron Fist #2, I believe.

Looked like he jump kicked him into submission. Four jump.kicks in a row on panel.

Spidey unloaded everything he had on him, and only succeeded in wearing himself out.


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1) Someone was asked to stop bikering with me. It seems that the message didn't reach.


What about your snipes in this thread? Where you agree with abhilegend simply on the basis he is arguing against me?

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*Post Batman oneshotting Grundy, Wonder woman and beating Aquaman in h2h*

Batman oneshots Danny.


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I agree with you (enjoy it)


Agreeing with something as nonsensical as this?

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2) On topic everyone on the team can easily solo and beat Danny Rand considering he isn't even in the same tier than Wolverine and Captain America when it comes to the combat skills, meaning that he isn't even close to Batman, Cassandra Cain and Batwing neither...

In short, the team stomps hard.


Despite the fact Danny is stronger, faster, tougher, and blatantly superhuman to the extent they won't be able to do anything or even keep up with him. Which no one has provided any significant counter evidence for.

Despite the fact he defeated telepathy with martial ability, Shin Kuei, Davos without chi when he had the accumulated knowledge of many dead Iron Fists, and Black Panther is willing to ask to learn from him even when it's freaking Tae Bo.

Show me any of these three doing half of what Daniel Rand has in terms of physical ability.



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3) I guess that every logical fallacies would have been used against my arguments but this one is pretty obvious.

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I asked you before asserting that was the case so it's not an argument from silence. That's what it would be if I said it was the case.

You're the one who is no stranger to logical fallacies.

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Also, what cdtm here said. Danny is able to take anything that's not atypically used in a fight and turn into a deadly fighting style. So much so that even Black Panther asked him to teach him.

Which is what's relevant there.

I figured that was obvious.

There is also defeating Mr. X's telepathy by using a drunken fighting style.

Thunderbolts #137

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Defeating Shin Kuei.

Heroes for Hire #19

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The image broke here for Shin Kuei. So, here is a better one.

Heroes for Hire #19

http://imgur.com/a/cHm9y

Also, ignore the typo it's Thunderbolts #137 for Mr. X.

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Immortal Iron Fist #23

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Dodging four different bullets at once, and does so in slow motion so we can see the bullets in mid-air.

Power Man & Iron Fist #89

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Deflecting dozens of flechettes at once, and creating numerous afterimages.

Power Man & Iron Fist #50

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Catching a bullet with bare hands.

Immortal Iron Fist Annual

https://i.imgur.com/mzHglT3.jpg

He is able to move within the time-frame of a microsecond.

Iron Fist v3 #1

http://imgur.com/a/TiUNn

It only takes him 0.05 seconds to charge and use his Iron Fist.

Power Man & Iron Fist #54

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He is able to easily defeat a giant dragon.

Immortal Weapons #5

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He is able to take down a helicarrier with a single blow.

New Avengers #59

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The collateral damage from his Iron Fist is compared to a hydrogen bomb.

Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #20

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He is able to murder Zhu-Rong, a God of Fire and Universal Order in a single punch.

Iron Fist: ILW #11

https://i.imgur.com/5ckAEMV.jpg


Just in case anyone missed these.

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Speaking of that.

Immortal Iron Fist #14

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I only brought those up because that's precisely what would happen if Iron Fist was intent on actually murdering them, and had no moral compulsions stopping him.


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Oh, and Danny breaks out of the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak before destroying an inter-dimensional portal with a punch. Which causes a tear in the fabric of reality.

Iron Fist v1 #7

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Also, these.

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Lord Rand wins even if the Batgod is on the opposing team


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Lol...stop back seat modding. Also, Pr hated me from the start, not ABHI.


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Also, what cdtm here said. Danny is able to take anything that's not atypically used in a fight and turn into a deadly fighting style. So much so that even Black Panther asked him to teach him.

Which is what's relevant there.

I figured that was obvious.

There is also defeating Mr. X's telepathy by using a drunken fighting style.

Thunderbolts #37

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Defeating Shin Kuei.

Heroes for Hire #19

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And for a more conventional example, remember when he played Daredevil?

He copied Matt's style so well, Matt himself said he's as good as anyone he's ever seen. And it wasn't even his own style.


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