The first Muramasa blade, yes. Not the one from Origins.
Wolverine's adamantium is actually adamantium beta... as his HF induced a molecular change in the primary adamantium. It may very well be tougher than the real deal.
Anyhow, why are you so bent on ignoring the shield's unique properties? "I don't like it, it didn't happen" - same behavior in every thread, really?
I sincerely doubt that it's stronger based on something as inane as a healing factor influencing metal. Also, adamantium "beta" would imply it's a lesser subsidiary of it.
As they literally do not exist for the most part, and vibranium is confirmed to not even be a part of it anymore. Why would it absorb anything when it's not supposed to, and when it demonstratively doesn't?
Sans a few times when it was made out of vibranium.
Yet, leonidas just confirmed that it wasn't and it is instead made out of proto-admanatium.
You mean those hilariously inconsistent fights that were nearly as bad as Batman defeating Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Green Lantern, and the Flash?
Shall we talk about that one-thousand page Wolverine vs Spiderman thread that lasted over a decade?
"they gave me some of this rare metal to work with...vibranium i believe it is now called...."
proto-adamantium is the name given to the vibranium alloy the shield was made from. proto-adamantium because it was macclain's first attempt at adamantium and was the 'non-replicable' precursor of it.
so, yeah, the shield is made of an unknown and never repeated alloy, but vibranium has a hand in it.
as far as using bois--i agree they are not ideal, but there is no book anywhere that will specifically state it was 'wakandan vibranium' in the shield. that should be the default reasoning though without question, unless there is a third type of vibranium shown in a book somewhere that i am unaware of....
Not once does it mention that it absorbs anything, and it wasn't actually vibranium anymore. It was made by studying it in order to create a new indestructible metal from steel alloy. Which it was mixed in with steel alloy in a unspecified process as the lead scientist fell asleep during the mixture. The final product was adamantium. It's specifically indestructible.
Adamantium does not absorb anything.
Unless you want to try to say all adamantium retains this feature despite being made into an entirely new metal.
I know, and I read your scan the new alloy was a result of an unspecified mixture that created a new metal that was indestructible. Which was completely accidental. Unless you want to try and say adamantium retains its absorbing properties.
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It wasn't the same metal. It was an entirely new one.
As I already established earlier it's not something Thor can damage. So, I am not sure why you're bringing this up.
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i'm not sure what you're saying tbh, in particular this bit:
don't know why you're bringing up adamantium in the shield discussion as the shield is not adamantium, which (as told in the thor scan) wasn't create until decades later.....
also, are you saying vibranium is NOT in the shield?
could the new alloy have....reduced/depleted the vibranium absorption properties? i guess, sure, but that would only add to what we see in so many scans--it partially absorbs impacts. i showed a scan that already confirmed it. your idea though (if that is what you're trying to say) has merit and would explain why the energy shield was even better at absorbing--it had more 'vibranium properties' than the shield retained by mixing metals.
Typo, that I fixed seven minutes before you replied. Just read it again.
Short for protro-adamantium which garden variety adamantium is based off of. It is the prototype, and first form of adamantium that the lesser versions of adamantium are based off of. Yet, they do not have any energy absorbing abilities even to a lesser extent than it should.
I am saying it's drastically changed as a result of this procedure, and no longer vibranium as a result.
Basically, yes that's what I am saying. The process should have diluted it to the point where it's clearly not very good at absorbing kinetic energy on its own. As we see when it fails to even completely absorb Cyclops optic blasts, and Captain America has to actually strain himself to push them. It's not any sort of nullification of kinetic energy, and what absorbing properties it does have seem nearly nonexistent without those aforementioned modifications.
We're back on vibranium when we're talking about proto-adamantium?
In which case maybe it's energy absorption can be used the opposite way in order to redirect kinetic energy. As seen with leonidas's first example. Where Captain America blasts someone with his modified shield.
I don't know comic book writers are barely able to sort through these things themselves. As I said before idiots the whole lot of them.
The rare exception being the likes of... I can't think of any. Maybe Brian K. Vaughan.
So then, Captain America's shield has positively no instances where it clearly absorbs any kinetic energy? As that's the only one leonidas brought up that's clear on that.
I don't want to hear that from someone who thought Wolverine would beat Spiderman in that positively ridiculous thread.
Nor someone who decides to bring up Silver Surfer's speed in an entirely different topic.
Nope, I provided many instances that showed that Danny is blatantly superhuman to the extent that most of his fights actually make sense. You provided positively no instances that prove that Batman is faster than light or a planet destroying demi-god.
You have two choices here.
You either drop that or egregiously claim Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, and the Flash are not as superhuman as Batman.
Question if anyone brought those fights up against Superman would you honestly say they are legitimate even then?
You know it makes me wonder.
You would either try to defend yourself and say they are legitimate but that Superman is still somehow far above Batman. That, or backpeddle out of it.
That or use a straw man like you're doing right now in order to try and say I am doing the same thing your were then.
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