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Originally posted by RealityWarper
His durability is still street.

Marvel said that Danny is "enhanced human regenerative".

Enhanced human regenerative is the same kind that Wolverine, minus he needs to concentrate to heal his wounds to a far lesser degree than Wolverine and minus the adamantium skeleton.

Karnak is still above Danny in every category but the durability and he is at street-level.

Spider-man is above Danny in every category and he is street-level.

And Window >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danny's durability. XD
erm Marvel also lists Luke Cage as a 25 tonner while pretty much every feat that he has shows that he's at least a 50 tonner. The feats speak for themselves and no amount of lowballing will change that.


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erm Marvel also lists Luke Cage as a 25 tonner while pretty much every feat that he has shows that he's at least a 50 tonner. The feats speak for themselves and no amount of lowballing will change that.


And Cage was class 10 at the beginning and now "class 25 or greater".

The feats Danny has doesn't put him above the other street-levelers, especially when he is wrecked on a window and no amount of denial will change that.


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You think Daredevil or Nightwing would survive that fall?

Look at the scan. "KER-SLAMM". The writer didn't do that by accident, it's supposed to be a "Wow, how did he get up from that?" moment.


laughing out loud

nothing says durability like "KER-SLAMM!!11!"

anyway, this here is the reason danny sucks nowadays. he was better when he was consistently closer to the street guys like dd instead of exploding jets, punching trains and ko'ing helicarriers.

mids wins cuz danny sucks. thumb up


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And Cage was class 10 at the beginning and now "class 25 or greater".

The feats Danny has doesn't put him above the other street-levelers, especially when he is wrecked on a window and no amount of denial will change that.
batman has been hit by people with literally no h2h training, wolverine has been tagged by normal thugs and no name martial artists. No amount of low balling will change that Danny is consistently above street levelers these days.

Also, when was Danny knocked out on a window?


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laughing out loud

nothing says durability like "KER-SLAMM!!11!"

anyway, this here is the reason danny sucks nowadays. he was better when he was consistently closer to the street guys like dd instead of exploding jets, punching trains and ko'ing helicarriers.

mids wins cuz danny sucks. thumb up


Trust me, I've read nearly all of his early stuff and he's always been pretty over the top. I've posted the scans of him leveling a city block, stopping a locomotive about to run someone down, and hanging on another train speeding along before slamming into the edge of a tunnel.

And when Priest gets ahold of him, it gets even crazier (He was a true fanboy, judging by his writing. Every issue he did something impressive.)

But for my money, I think he's way better these days as the happy-go-lucky, somewhat airheaded, lighthearted sidekick to Cage then as a serious martial artist. wink

He's almost the anti Daredevil.


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batman has been hit by people with literally no h2h training, wolverine has been tagged by normal thugs and no name martial artists. No amount of low balling will change that Danny is consistently above street levelers these days.


I don't think that he is above other street-levelers which is by the way a large term.

He has his own power-set and his trademark is having a greatly enhanced striking power.

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Also, when was Danny knocked out on a window?


In one of the scan that I've posted.


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IF wins and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.


You and I should Battlezone something...

I don't plan to use Midnighter. I have other people in mind.


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batman has been hit by people with literally no h2h training, wolverine has been tagged by normal thugs and no name martial artists. No amount of low balling will change that Danny is consistently above street levelers these days.

Also, when was Danny knocked out on a window?


I think he's talking about Fat Cobra.


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I think he's talking about Fat Cobra.


Nope.

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Iron Fist is still a weakling.

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Ah, forgot about that one.

Irony using that comic of all things to make him look bad. Kudos. thumb up


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Ah, forgot about that one.

Irony using that comic of all things to make him look bad. Kudos. thumb up


I don't.

I'm unbiased.


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I don't.

I'm unbiased.


Remender sure wasn't. wink


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Remender sure wasn't. wink


There is no reasons to avoid using a scan if the context allow it.

Here IF was in a normal state.


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Iron Fist lose again.

He can't even protect his dead mother:

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Iron Fist lose again.

He can't even protect his dead mother:

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The really funny thing, is he meets his dead mother again in the Living Weapon series.

I forget how it panned out, but I don't think it ended any better for her.


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Midnighter should stomp effortlessly thanks to his battle computer.


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To Summarize:

Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Fist

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Midnighter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows

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Midnighter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Fist


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Midnighter can plan everything so it's possible for this fight to end like that.


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This is still being debated? Midnighter wins a solid majority. You used the wrong Midnighter, Realitywarper.

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This is still being debated? Midnighter wins a solid majority. You used the wrong Midnighter, Realitywarper.


It seems that both versions are used in that thread:

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1. Classic versions.

2. Modern.


Marvel don't have a classic version for Iron Fist so it is probably Wildstorm Midnighter in the first round and New 52 in the second.


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There will soon be 3 Midnighter's soon.

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