That's completely irrelevant against Midnighter's battle computer as it calculate every possible scenario.
Everybody don't debate the same way on comicvine, you should know if you wasn't a rookie.
There is no problems in using Databooks (the OHOTMU for Marvel and the Secret Files & Origins) as they are canon to both their Universes. They are official informations given by Marvel and DC , so the reader can understand their characters better.
Same stuff with the Datafiles, which are part of some stories like Dark Reign, Storming Asgard, etc...
Everything not published by the main company itself which gives unreliable information besides the interviews like Marvel Fact Files, Eaglemoss Chess Collection Books, DC & Marvel Encyclopedias, etc...
Those are not canon and should not be taken seriously.
I didn't dismiss any feats, I replaced them in their proper context instead.
A) I was speaking with Darksaint85 how the doors are managed as a power for Midnighter, I didn't make a claim about Midnighter using them in this thread.
The drunken style has worked against people who can literally know what Daniel Rand is planning to do next.
It's impossible to debate on comicvine due to the draconic, and positively asinine moderation. You could be permanently banned simply for disagreeing on something even if you provide evidence.
Yes, there is problem.
As they are notoriously inconsistent and don't take into account what characters have actually even done.
Only if they adhere to what is actually seen, and stated in the story itself. They are secondary sources. That's it.
Interviews or questions are not reliable either. As you people such as Stan Lee saying Galactus is the strongest character in Marvel bar none, and Tom Breevort saying that Black Panther is stronger than Silver Surfer.
The writers and editors themselves can incredibly stupid.
No, you dimissed them and ignored context that proved you wrong whilst fixating certain statements by cutting them out of the rest of what was said.
There are people on comicvine who think Thor from the MCU is more powerful than Thor from 616.
You specifically stated that he can use the rectangular variety in an attempt rebuke me. When I never said he couldn't. Then said he so much more powerful that he doesn't even need Door.
When he does.
This coming from the guy who ignores the mountains of evidence that I provide.
The Doors are necessary, and what I was saying was that you were bringing them when I never said that Midnighter couldn't use the garden variety.
That's not the same as speed. You need to actually be able to move fast enough to react to what you see is going to happen. Otherwise, the only thing it does is give you a glimpse of your own death before it's already too late to do anything about it.
As I already noted Iron Fist can counter people who literally know what he is planning to do next.
No, they're not and you were the one butchering the context. As I made clear in the Kenshiro Gauntlet.
Not only that you added context that wasn't there. Such as Danny's punch only destroying the guidance system of that helicarrier despite the fact this is never noted, and that Danny went through that train full of explosives. When we don't see that.
You didn't post a single feat that could turn the tables in Iron Fist's favor.
Nope, it's not you're the one that claimed that Midnighter's battle computer can accommodate practically any and all scenarios.
That's a no limit fallacy.
I didn't say Danny's drunken style is undefeatable, and can't be predicted by anyone. Someone who has legitimate precognition instead of prediction or telepathy can defeat it.
No, I am not that is literally how comicvine operates. The moderators ban people at moment's notice for any sort of slight with no forewarning. Just for disagreeing with them.
No, it's your headcanon in regards to this that's contradicted by everything we see and hear in story.
They are retarded no matter how you want to ignore or pretend that isn't the case. On top of being against the rules to even use to begin with.
Yes, Tom Brevoort is literally that stupid that a random nerd on the internet knows more that he does.
That's how it is.
In regards to this particular topic? No. As it showcases how idiotic their community is.
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They're not hyperbolic statements as I made clear. How in the world are specific timeframes such as "microsecond" and "0.05 seconds" hyperbolic.
How is "hundreds of megatons" and "wiping London off the wipe if it's not stopped" hyperbolic?
They're necessary for Midnighter to defeat Iron Fist.
Despite the many instances I brought up that proves you wrong. Neither fight at human speed. I mean Jesus Christ the Midnighter is a bullet-timer at least. He was able to deflect a tank shell with a kick.
Now you're undermining his abilities too?
I didn't overplay it. The drunken style specifically allows Danny to counter people who can literally know what he is thinking, and what he is planning on doing. Simply by virtue of being that unpredictable.
I am not the one who said Midnighter fights at human speeds, and whilst I haven't read the entirety of the Authority I have read a few issues.
Midnighter's computer doesn't work like precog, not exactly.
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He sees a scenario he likes (i.e. Midnighter wins). He then works backwards (OK, if I am to win, I need to break his leg. To break his leg, I need to do A, which makes him do B, and to do A, I need to make him do C etc etc). He in effect plans the entire fight out for both sides, then 'forces' the opponent to do it the way he wants.
IOW, Drunken Fist wouldn't counter it. As Danny wouldn't get the chance to use it.
With regards to the doors, all the Doc did was come up with the plan. Do people have scans of what Jenny did with her powers? How she changed it?
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i think that was pretty much the only time it was really defined that way. it's not precog though, you're right. he does see every possible outcome though and can counter based on the way the scenario plays out. so while it isn't precog technically, it acts much the same way in a h2h scenario. he's not unbeatable, obviously, and fist could take him, but straight h2h wouldn't be a sure thing for fist imo. throw in the doors and i don't see him winning this. digi would know off hand some of nighter's best feats and could weigh in more definitively than i could without looking back at a bunch of my older stuff. and i'm lazy....