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Satele Shan vs Pong Krell
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Deronn Solo
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Originally posted by MythLord
Like I said, simply to go from a Knight to a Master would, according to ToG, be a noticeable enough leap. To then go from that to a Council Master, and then a Grandmaster would be another noticeable enough leap.



Not necessarily. Wisdom plays a major roll in as well, Jedi aren't Sith, where power is all that matters, as shown time and again. Anakin's power/skill didn't suddenly go up a notch because he completed the Praesitlyn campaign to became a Jedi Knight, neither was Ulic status as the greatest of the Jedi, and the only one alive that could rival Kun's power, when in reality, he was powerful enough to be the Grand Master. Or the fact, Kyp Durron, who is, without doubt, the second or third most Jedi in the Order, was skipped over for Kenth Hammer as acting GM when Luke was on leave, because he wasn't exactly the most wise, and mentally sound -- again, not all about power, nor skill with a blade.


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Plus, she had decades to improve. I'm pretty sure she'd be considerably ahead of her Hope! self.


Conjecture, we're done. Stop replying to me, please.


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So an anecdotal fallacy and an appeal to ignorance? Yeah, that's cool.


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Oh shit, you can Google fallacy's and attach them to opposing arguments in hopes of looking actual knowledgeable to substitute saying anything actually substantial lmao. Cheers, bruh.

You're an absolute punchline, Wollf.


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I've already stated my argument, which you dismiss on fallacious grounds; and just because you weren't aware of some types of fallacies doesn't mean I wasn't, lmao.

Of course, you've resorted to throwing around insults to seem superior in this particular instance , yet accuse me of being a punchline.


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I've already stated my argument


Which were cancer.

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which you dismiss on fallacious grounds


No, I gave you clear in-canon examples on why rank doesn't indicate power, it's common sense - an single entry in a RPG sourcebook won't change that. You then try to act [emphasis on act], all intellectual (lmao) by proceeding to list a bunch of logical fallacy's in hopes to seem substantial and relevant. Leave the Nia'ing to the actual Nai's.

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and just because you weren't aware of some types of fallacies doesn't mean I wasn't, lmao.


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Yeah, but sure - I didn't know of these fallacy's, kek.

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Of course, you've resorted to throwing around insults


Oh, wow. I'm surprised you didn't head to Google to get a fallacy that matches with this, and accuse me of ad hominem.

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yet accuse me of being a punchline.


You're a punchline because your post on these boards are more laughed at then pandered upon, honestly.


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Which were cancer.


I'd accuse this of an appeal to stone, but you'll probably say I googled that, too.

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No, I gave you clear in-canon examples on why rank doesn't indicate power, it's common sense - an single entry in a RPG sourcebook won't change that.


Yeah, by using isolated examples regarding characters who are exceptions, not rules. Mostly, it's knowledge, power and skill that sets the standards in the Jedi Order. Are there exceptions, of course. But that's just it: exceptions.

Saying Shan's case is also an exception is very much your own conjecture, in which case we fall back on Occam's Razor which supports the simplest explanation to a speculative topic. In this case, you either have judging something as a usual rule, or the exception to it. The simpler solution would be the former.

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You then try to act [emphasis on act], all intellectual (lmao) by proceeding to list a bunch of logical fallacy's in hopes to seem substantial and relevant. Leave the Nia'ing to the actual Nai's.


I'm not acting, but I don't need to prove anything. I don't feel the need to directly flash my bravado or pride onto anyone like an insecure individual who finds ways to vent by bragging on the internet.

Note: I am not neccessarily accusing you of anything, but there are users to which I can attribute the above.

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Yeah, but sure - I didn't know of these fallacy's, kek.


The way you spoke, you seemed to have been unaware. .

So great, you know a fallacy, doesn't mean I suddenly googled mine, lol.

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Oh, wow. I'm surprised you didn't head to Google to get a fallacy that matches with this, and accuse me of ad hominem.


I think that one was too obvious, tbh.

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You're a punchline because your post on these boards are more laughed at then pandered upon, honestly.


Something I really couldn't care less about, even if I tried. Most of the people on this board have a distaste for me because I had the sheer audacity to challenge them, or defy them on something.

Today, the quality of a debate doesn't matter, what matters is trading insults and d!ck measuring contests to prove superiority because everyone here has some type of complex they can't find any psychiatrist to solve.

Granted, I myself am guilty of bravado, at times imprudent admittedly, but it's usually just banter rather than anything I actually believe about myself or others in comparison to myself.


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Meh, I don't even care about this shitty thread anymore. Wanna go out for a strawberry milkshake later, friend?


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DC finally understands the art of not giving a shit. smile


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Meh, I don't even care about this shitty thread anymore. Wanna go out for a strawberry milkshake later, friend?


Agreed, and you know I do. thumb up


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Too much speculation to answer this thread.


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