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still, i don't think i've ever seen that changed. far as i've ever seen all ages stories are not in continuity unless explicitly stated otherwise. i read a bit of this series which was stated to be in continuity (i didn't like it) but even after being stated as canon, there is still doubt:
opening the door to allow for one all ages book to be canon would seem to be opening the door to ALL all ages books, and clearly most are well outside of that. without some form of explicitly stated exception, can't see that sw story arc being considered canon--certainly not by forum standards, but i don't think by marvel standards either. /shrug
maybe galan or opr know more.
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Last edited by leonidas on Aug 26th, 2016 at 01:44 PM
Some of that Marvel Adventures/all ages stuff was definitely not in continuity as there were clear differences to the mainstream titles. Other things like the events of Pet Avengers seemed to kind of fit into the gaps and were actually mentioned in the official handbooks alongside regular material, so it was a mixed bag. Being Marvel I doubt the editors were even keeping track of it all.
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fair enough i guess. but it would seem to me that the default assumption should be non-canon, unless otherwise explicitly stated. referenced in canon books or official handbooks could work i guess, just that as you know, handbooks can be...problematic at times. where 2 things happen though, and one is shown in 616 and the other in all ages, they can't BOTH be right obviously, and the 616 material clearly takes precedence.
allowing all ages to act as canon material (sometimes) really seems to open a can of worms imo....
Yeah, fully agree. I always assume they are out of continuity (most were obviously so), with a few exceptions that didn't contradict and were referenced in canon material - which was extremely rare.
As for the fight, it comes down to what others have said about the whole pre/post-retcon business. Beyonder Doom's mastery of time could tip it in his favor.
They're discussing a 4-issue mini released in 2010 called: Spider-Man and the Secret Wars. It was written as sort of a tie-in to the original Secret Wars. Anyway, the implication to me is that it was intended to be canon.
Doesn't seem like the writers would have used specific scenes from SW itself, if the mini wasn't intended to canonically tie-into it. I understand where abhi is coming from, though.
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i get there are definite overlaps, but minor differences are still....differences. i mean how many times has the watcher in what ifs talked about how some universes are extremely like our own, with only the most minor of changes, while others are vastly different? also, i was under the impression these all ages stories took place like...years before the 616 stories?
not sure if all the 'all ages' stuff is meant to take place in the same universe though. i thought it was.
anyway, i guess it's ambiguous at the very least. still can't imagine any feats pulled from the series being considered canon in the forum. /shrug
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fair enough. i've checked it out and looked around and can't find a definitive answer anywhere, so yeah. i guess it's open to interpretation as relates to that specific series.
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... phuckin common sense at last.
... and then there's the verbatim recall of Spideman finding the Black Suit in the Spidey/SW mini,
it was illustrated/dialogued identically as in the original series. I posted it on page 1.
That, as we both know, manifested the limited run titled: "Web of Spiderman."
That incident happened only in the original SW.
So just with that detail brother G, the truth with proof is sound.
How many times did the Watcher, or anyone for that matter
pop up in the Spidey mini to highlight how we were indulging an alternate reality story?
(silence) .. and, exactly old friend.
Marvel readers are always given an indication they are dealing with an alternate universe.
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Sorry guys, but I have yet to see any evidence to suggest it is canon. The All-Ages books played homages to other 616 stories and books, but hey I'm open if it is canon.