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Outlander/Arcann/Malgus vs. Vader/Dooku/Maul
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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
That was YOUR claim, sweetie. Just saying that the visuals aren't disproof isn't enough; you still haven't provided active evidence for your case, to which you have the burden of proof.

Now, have you given up yet?

I stated this a day ago:

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Wrong.

It short-circuited the Starships. The crew of each Starship got electrocuted as well since they were in contact with machinery.


Of-course, Force lightning did not destroy outer layers of the Starships but the extent of internal damage they suffered is unknown from visual perspective.

However, we can infer that Valkorion's FLS affected those Starships in a similar manner as Galen's FLS affected an AT-ST. Difference is in sheer scale and potency of the attack. Valkorion's FLS literally dwarfs Starkiller's FLS in sheer scale and also puts it to shame in the aspect of potency because a single (stray) bolt of his FLS was sufficient to disable a large Starship mid-flight.

Have a look: https://i.imgur.com/Hgmi2ap.mp4

Do also keep in mind that Arcann was taking the brunt of Valkorion's attack.

Now will you stop derailing this thread further? My focus is on the arguments of Beniboybling. Don't try to overshadow my responses to him.

You want to draw a comparison between Valkorion and Starkiller, open a new thread for it.

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Beniboybling
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The argument of 'more potent Force energy' is utterly flawed and misleading.

In real life, energy exists in different forms such as light, heat, mechanical, gravitational, electrical, sound, chemical, nuclear and vice versa. Can you expect a living being to have similar level of resistance against all forms of energy? I do not.
I'm well aware of what shit your trying to peddle dear, but you continue to ignore that the energy Vader tolerated was just more potent.

Analogy: if a bunker can withstand the ten nuclear detonations, we can be pretty confident it could withstand most other forms of energy barrage.

Force lightning is indeed intrinsically a difficult power to defend against, but I see no reason to believe it's more difficult that the energy unleashed by a weaponised kyber crystal, the same technology behind the planet busting Death Star, that can vaporise anything it touches and turn people to stone... It does not take a genius to work out which expression is more potent, yet you continue to struggle.

Provide some evidence that Valkorion-lite's attack was more threatening, or concede, those are your options. thumb up
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No where it is stated that explosions of Dark Side energy - that Darth Vader shrug-off - were manifestations of Force lightning.
It's funny because this is also wrong, both explosions took the form of storms of crackling electrical dark side energy i.e. Force lightning, rendering your pointing further moot.
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Arcann's defenses could be superior to that of Yoda?
Your proof of this being?
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Don't try to lecture me about elementary when you are presenting illogical arguments to make your case.
Lmao, you didn't answer my question dear, what evidence is there that Arcann could have withstood what Vader did on Malachor and the Death Star?


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FreshestSlice
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Arcann getting crushed and loosing an arm is a Vader-tier defensive showing.

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Nephthys
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TBH, Arcann tanked a lot of lightsaber blows. His durability is pretty incredible. And he was still in good enough shape to bitchslap Vaylin afterwards.


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Zenwolf
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Edit: Wait nvrm, thought there was a scene though.


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Wolverine level healing factor? :P


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Originally posted by Sinious
This doesn't even make sense or fit in the story. Why would Valkorion be shitting on you for not being ready to defeat Arcann, and then praise you for proving yourself ready by defeating him if your achievement is solely based on a lightsaber? And Valky himself says that you have to finish your training or Arcann will defeat you, and then he does the amp thing. I'd say these matter more than a sketchy lightsaber amp that doesn't even make sense as a concept.

Also, doesn't Arcann's alignment to the Force make it harder for Jedi/Sith to fight him? In that sense, I personally think that the Outlander's new training and weapon is an answer to the advantage that Arcann already has.


Ant told me the saber Outlander received empowered him specifically against Arcann.

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Sinious
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Did you even read what I said?


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UCanShootMyNova
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Yes.

I informed you that if I'm in error then it's Ant's fault. smile


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Maul brings the OT/PT down

Anyone on the TOR team either out duels him or ragdolls him


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Ursumeles
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They win with TCW Maul.


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They lose with TCW Maul.


Ogreed.

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Intr3pId
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Bump. Is the consensus still that... there is no consensus?

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The Ellimist
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Vader's MVP.


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Meatpants
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My initial thoughts are that Team TOR stomps.

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Intr3pId
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
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Vader > Dooku?


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DarthCaedus77
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Vader>Outlander

Maul>Malgus

Dooku<Arcann

Team 2 with Vader as MVP.


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Originally posted by Intr3pId
Vader > Dooku?


Yes.


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Sidious' lackies take it.


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Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Yes.

Based on?


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