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DarkSaint85
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3 times bigger? Where? Scans.

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Scans of what?

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Scans of what?

the asteroid that hulk destroyed

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the asteroid that hulk destroyed

I already posted scans of hulk destroying the asteroid.

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It's not all Hulk but the high majority is him and destroying something 3 times bigger than earth is...I can't even think of a word to complete this. Add in it was done by one of the weakest Hulks in existence AND, Hulk can jump across space on his own now...

I'm sure you get it.

You said it was 3x bigger. As its a pretty famous Hulk feat, am sure you won't misremember it, right?

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You said it was 3x bigger. As its a pretty famous Hulk feat, am sure you won't misremember it, right?

With Hulk history, yes, I can do forget but error on my part, it was twice as big.

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What's an extra Earth between friends, eh?

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Maybe the problem is that you're asking Carver these things

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I love you to Psycho.

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Maybe the problem is that you're asking Carver these things

Hey, not my fault he doesn't quite understand...

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Let's reexamine shall we?
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1. Bill is distraught by what they turned his home(galactic core which housed a concentration of stars) into.
2. Narration states that the portal had replaced the stars which comprised much of the galactic core.
3. Hell Bill goes on further and states that they "harnessed the stars to create such evil(portal)".
4. Art depicts the portal to be massive enough that it seems to dwarf nearby stars and surrounding celestial bodies
5. In Galan's scan, Bill himself described the source(portal) where the demons were streaming out of as "an exploding sun". Yes.. The demons that attacked Bill's people from the beginning are the same that have continued to stream out of the portal and continued their assault. It's head scratching why you would claim otherwise.

Sometimes you don't need the writer to hold your hand on exactly what he or she is trying to convey. Even a 4 yr old can understand what's happening in that scene.

And what do you have to go on? Star jumping? The portal not being drawn to scale in certain angles(especially in close ups)? You should know that there aren't always perfect depictions artwise as evidenced by my examples. A good one Imo Brainiac's ship where it looked like it was smaller than earth in one scan and not much bigger than Superman in the other. Or how about Exitar depicted many times as earth sized in the Uncanny Avengers arc, but looked nowhere near as large when Thor sliced his neck or when Sentry lifted him away.

lol, at the nerve of trying to argue against this.

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lol, at the nerve of trying to argue against this.

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There are at least 3 shown that are in front of the portal ffs... Two of which are in closer to the portal and still in front of it. You need glasses.

Yeah, no. Those are in the background and are shown as little compared to even the chariot. Moreover, Surtur creates another identical portal on Earth using twilight and its nowhere near big enough to dwarf stars.

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Before them lie not the radiant stars of an ancient and wise race... But a glowing portal, pulsating with evil"

Learn to read man. The massive portal is now what takes up much of Bill's former home.

No, it doesn't. It merely says there is a portal and nowhere it is mentioned that the portal dwarfs or replaced the stars.

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If you really think Thor and Bill are star/sun sized, there really is no reasoning with you.

Or the portal isn't that big to begin with.

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Jeezs Christ Almighty. The core of the galaxy blew up depicted by multiple suns going kaboom. From that very area sprang a massive portal where even Bill who has lived virtually all his life in close proximity to suns and able to survive in extreme heat remarked at how even he can't stand the temperatures of the portal.

Yes, the portal was very hot. Never mentioned its size though.

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Considering it now occupies an area where multiple stars once stood and it's extreme temperatures are even too much for powerful heralds, it is not out of left field why it could be described as "an exploding sun".

That's just laughable. Its hot so its an exploding sun.

No wonder I always laugh at your stretching.

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For the last time... The heroes used a chariot pulled by magical goats that can traverse the cosmos at multiple times the speed of light. Traveling and jumping off of something that can do that allows them to travel large distances quite easily. It's really no hard to understand.

But Thor didn't travel at the speed of light to jump across the portal. If he did, Bill would be at the other side of the portal as well as he was also in the chariot at the very previous panel.

And Thor called him across the portal as well.

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You still don't get it. Those were brought up to show art inconsistencies when incredibly large settings are depicted... Especially at different angles in a comic book medium. Simple..

Yes, in the same scene the stars and planets are in the background and an identical portal was shown nowhere that big under the same artist.

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Ball's in your court.

Whenever you are ready for another round of thrashing, do let me know.

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lol, at the nerve of trying to argue against this.

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Oh you two cheerleaders.

laughing out loud

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Cry over what? Surfer's puny energy blasts?

Savage Hulk has overpowered energy fields draining which Surfer couldn't with raw strength.

Ignoring the fact that this is probably some more surfer crap.
What the hell does that have to do with this thread?

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Speak English.

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They jumped off a chariot pulled by goats that can travel a ridiculous multiples of lightspeed. Now you are asking how they can easily travel large distances?

Again. You are nitpicking to discredit a cheese feat. You might as well call into question Sif jumping and then treading on a fleet of ships and demons moving ftl. Heck why don't you question how Thor, Bill, and Sif are speaking in the vacuum of space.

Surtur blew up the core of the Burning Galaxy.
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Out of which sprang his massive portal that dwarfed surrounding celestial bodies.
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And further corroborated in BRB's own book where the portal was described as an exploding Sun. So at the very least it was star sized and a massive one at that judging by how it dwarfed surrounding suns and other celestial bodies.

And just to reiterate the space cheese from Simonson, Surtur himself at one point dwarfed stars.
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The Burning Galaxy is where Beta Ray Bill hails from. Note. It's not a tiny galaxy from some microverse filled with tiny suns and planets. It is a regular galaxy for all intents and purposes. The Korbinites built their cities among stars/suns and towards the galactic core where stars are usually most concentrated.
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All these claims about reality warping, chariot sizes, artists being lazy, jumping stars, etc. etc. are being thrown out there just to see which one sticks. Usually happens when each excuse is too flimsy to stand on and just reeks of severe butthurt.

So Ahbi. I think I'm going to go ahead and claim that Brainiac's ship wasn't that big at all as shown here amirite?
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As if my earlier examples weren't enough, how about here where the ship itself isn't much larger than Superman?
Heck Supes must be the size of a moon at this point amirite?
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When the narrative or characters doesn't tell how large something is then we must go by the art. There is no where that it tells explicitly how large the portal is. If so then we can disregard the art to a degree.

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does no one on this site know what PIS is? yes hulk has busted an asteroid 3 times earths size (though there was context) in his grey hulk incarnation, but this is not a consistent showing as it is common knowledge WBHis the only hulk with true planetary striking power therefore the asteroid feat is PIS.

Sep 28th, 2016 11:38 PM