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They aren't hyperbolic.
Tony Stark had to inform the president of the USA about how bad the situation could degenerate if Sentry's powers were unleashed.
That's everything but hyperbolic.
Do you understand the context of Tony Stark when he is in charge of the National Security ?
Tony Stark is an authoritative source in the Marvel Universe and his judgement on the matter is relevant.
We could say the same about his creator and his main writer but they already showed this in the stories.
Call me when anyone in the Marvel Universe stomps Molecule Man the way Sentry did, considering Molecule Man was at full power.
Call me when anyone in the Marvel Universe is stated to have limitless power confirmed by the other characters like Tony "Iron Man" Stark whom is one of the smartest Marvel character and one of the most skilled when it comes to understand the power of Cosmic Threats.
That is practically the textbook definition of hyperbolic.
Please, MM was decisively far far far below full power. Certainly not even close to the level he was operating at in the latest SW, but I shouldn't need to explain that.
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By copying it. The Mask, at it's core, is magical..correct?
I would imagine he would copy his power and the powers of his other opponents.
How would DS Sentry defeat Amazo?
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Yeah, when MM fought Beyonder they were tossing galaxies(or maybe it was universes) at each other. When he fought Sentry they were not doing those things and it's not exactly like Sentry lacked any of those crazy powerful feats. He had his fight with Genis in the microverse.
It has also been a while since I read the encounter with MM, but I seem to recall the guy had trouble with Wolverines son during the fight?
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You do love throwing the terms around; have you just learnt about them recently? But I digress...
I never said there was a flaw. You're saying there's a passive ability of the Sentry; can you perhaps point to a handbook, or a character description within a comic thst says he has such an ability? Otherwise, its an inability by the characters to copy Sentry, NOT an ability you've suddenly dreamt up to fit your theory.
And if it is an inability, then you cannot extend it to other characters. We can't share feats, nor can we share defeats.
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*copy and paste*
They aren't hyperbolic.
Tony Stark had to inform the president of the USA about how bad the situation could degenerate if Sentry's powers were unleashed.
That's everything but hyperbolic.
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He wasn't.
Owen was even more skilled than he was when fought the Beyonder due to his constant training.
There isn't a single instance in Dark Reign that shows Owen saying that he is unable to do something.
Owen's power is weakened ONLY when he believes that he can't do something.
He proved many times in the story to use his powers in many new ways while toying with the Avengers.
He showed himself even more ruthless that his dark and nerfed alter-ego.
You need to understand the nature of Owen's power.
We already know how powerful he is and in order to affect his opponents he just needs to affect THEIR molecules.
His second fight against the Beyonder showed a lack of control of his powers as the power backlashed everywhere despite the fact that Owen wanted to directly affect the Beyonder.
Owen being weakened during Dark Reign is a Fairy Tale coming from Sentry's haters.
No one at Marvel believes it.
Bendis himself said that Sentry's power is limitless, so tell me why you believe that he needed to nerf Owen, when Bendis himself tell us that Sentry has no limit to his power.
You're confusing the matter. I don't think people are saying MM was weakened in the story. By that I mean I don't think they are saying it was a PLOT point in the story itself that MM was not at full power.
Think of pre crisis Darkseid and post crisis Darkseid. They are the same person and I don't think we were ever given a legit IN story explanation to the tune of "yeah Darkseid has somehow been weakened". So why do we separate PC Darkseid from post crisis?
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MM was at full power and not weakened.
If Bendis wanted to show a less powerful reality warping contest he could have chosen Proteus or any other reality warper.
The reason why he chosen Owen was to show a glimpse of Sentry's true power.
Darkseid's avatars are close to Superman in power.
Superman's power-level has changed through the different Ages (Gold, Silver, etc...) so it's clear that lowering the power of Superman will affect his Rogue gallery.
Yeah, and Odin isn't an absolute authority on himself when he says he's omnipotent? Thor isn't an authority on Odin when he calls him omnipotent?
It's all hyperbole.
When did the measure of power become what someone doesn't say?
Owen in the latest Secret Wars - the same one who put the "omniverse" in a box - had the combined power of an infinite number of Owens. Let's not pretend he was the one that Sentry fought.
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What the hell are you talking about ?
Tony Stark specifically listed Sentry's abilities as "being capable to create a new House of M" and having "Unlimited psionic powers".
There is literally 0 correlation with Odin hyping himself.
Iron Man, as the responsible of the National Security, had to inform the President of the USA about the threat that many individual represent.
This has nothing to do with a random statement thrown in the heat of battle.
Nice definist fallacy by the way. XD
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The power of Owen Reece is directly linked to his beliefs in his abilities. Owen being a complete nutcase doesn't change his power-level, only his beliefs on his abilities matter.
If Owen believes that he can't do something he always say it, that's his trademark.
Owen demonstrated that he fiercely believed in his abilities during without a single negative statement that he can't do something.
Molecule Man was definitely at full power during Dark Reign.
Owen never had the ability to use the power of the Beyonders and he was deprived of it when they re-created the Universe with Reed & Franklin.
Owen is the repository of Unlimited Power which has to be directed through an individual AKA Reed Richard. That means that Owen can't use the power of the Beyonders himself. He is just here to store the power. Franklin is the one who shape the Universes.
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Franklin shape the Universes and give the idea to Reed whom uses the power of the Beyonders to create those Universes and slice the parts of Owen to create an anchor for those Universes which makes Owen whole again AKA stripped of the Owens whom were part of him.
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In short, Owen was the same power-wise during Dark Reign and Sentry stomped him like a fly. Sentry is far more powerful than Owen. Deal with it.
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