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BEST TRINITY
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Im gonna c it today.

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only one matrix
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There is only one matrix. I will try to make you understand, so you will know where the third matrix starts. Two ships are left in the fleet the logos and the hammer. The logos is Captian Niobe's ship. The Hammer is the strongest ship in the fleet, which can launch an EMP while still operating its hovercraft mobility. At the end of Matrix reloaded the Hammer was sent to find survivors of the counter attack. When it arrived the machines tried to attack them, but they let off an EMP destroying the machines and knocking the human in which agent smith was in the body of out cold. Once the Hammer picked up it's survivor it headed north on the orders of Commander Lock to bring in the crew of the Neb, so that they could have more ships to defend the front gates of Zion, besides the powerful Hammer. When the hammer comes to the NEB., the NEB crew are running though the tunnels away from the sentinals. This is when the story gets interesting. The Hammer goes into action. The Wac Brothers decided not to show this in the movie, so all you fans could have your random thoughts. The Hammer pushes forward and launches an EMP, YES WHILE STILL MOVING, Neo turns puts up his hand and gets shocked by the EMP and the Sentinels and himself fall to the ground. Now this is how NEO got shocked.


In the first movie Neo destroys agent smith by going inside of him. Agent Smith though is thrown out of the agent society, The Arcitect confronts agent smith and gives him special powers letting him control and feel other robots. Now this is what you don't know, after NEO talks to the Oracle agent smtih comes and fights. Agent Smith tried to take neo over, but neo overcomes him. Smith's powers to control of robots is placed inside of him, but neo does not know that yet. This power has to be awakened by a huge emotional push through the body. That is what makes this "the one" different from all the rest. NEO receives the kiss of emotion from Persephone, which is the other maker of the MATRIX that the Artchitect was talking about.


Now lets get to the point NEO talks to the artchitect and runs and saves Trinity causing the emotional rush and the robot that was already inside of him trigger, now the robots awakeness was a cause of all three. Agent Smith, The Emotional rush, and Persephone. Now heres the trick that nobody seems to see. The program was already inside to NEO. THe oracle knew this everytime she talked to him. The oracle kept saying is that what you want to hear. This is where the third movie starts. Inside to neo is a renegade program, that the architect thought he could control, but he couldn't because the maker of emotion persephone hacked the program and made it a renegade, like the oracle, keymaker and other which you will see. The revolution takes place when the renegade programs and the humans fight back. I am sorry, but I will get in trouble if i tell you anymore information.

I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but NEO is the link he is half robot and half human. ZION is still around. There is only ONE matrix. I didn't like the story on the set either, but the end of the trilogy is unbelievable. I think all of you will be amazed. I WAS

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Why did he can feel them

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NEO is the link he is half robot and half human. ZION is still around. There is only ONE matrix. I didn't like the story on the set either, but the end of the trilogy is unbelievable. I think all of you will be amazed. I WAS

Persphone is a virus, it didn't like being obeyed so it went renegade. Machine need the humans. Humans need the machine. We can live as one in harmony.


So in your mind what is the difference between a robot/program/algorithm, and a “human being”?

Both obey the laws of cause and effect. Both are utterly bound by rules (of control).

If you met me on the street how would you know whether I was “Agent Smith”, or “Mr. Anderson” inside?

Specifically what is tangibly different (from your point of view) between Persephone and/or “the Oracle” and from Trinity and/or Niobe? How can you tell a “human” from a “program” (algorithm)?

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You guys are only talking about the video game Persephone?


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matrixknower, nice thanks for the post, but how do you know this stuff? did you have something to do with the filming? sweet.... ya i never bought the whole multi matrix thing (after i thought about it for a minute) someone in one of the threads suggest that Neo had a program installed in him. I was thinking that the program was more like a program designed by the architect to make the "one" more of a constant. I am also betting that there is going to be a major conflict between Smith and Neo that will determine what happens unlike reloaded where smith was just an obstacle. clue me in but leave it a surprise. also in the trailer it shows smith laughing in a kitchen which looks a lot like the oracles kitchen. that could be trouble.


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matrixknower, what you explained does make a lot of sense...i think when he said 'i feel them', he probably felt their fear, fear of being destroyed by the EMP...not feeling them in the sense of their presence but their fears, cause he's half one of them. if this is so, then there might be a little problem in revolutions as he may be reluctant to destroy the machines..so neo may go bad for a while, but i think trinity's love would bring him back and sustain him..and then i fear morpheous will die......


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Really short comment: I liked Persephone.


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has anyone seen the second reconnaisance part 2? the fairy being watching a baby in the growing fields could be persephone...


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just a thought..when persephone mentioned being loved once, she didnt mentioned who he was. we think it's the merovingian but what if he's not? what if her lover was someone else? maybe her lover was a former one who took the right door and failed?(heeding the architects call) and then probably turned bad? she seems to look at trinity with eyes of pity..in the sense that she too would loose neo to the architect...so maybe persephone was also a former one's girlfriend but lost him...


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bonjour from me! persophone= mother of the matrix. as i saw someone say before merovingian could be the program for language, in the that there is a program for birds and trees etc. persophone is the program for love. archi says the mother found a system which was accepted by 99% of all subjects, this system may be love! for most people if they are occupied by love wont be bothered about the world they are in and wont wish to dispute it. therefore keeping the matrix free from dispute and giving those plugged in a reason to live(they think) and so to work for the machines.

anyone gona deny me the intrinsic feeling of content thinking im right?

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I wouldn’t exactly say the Matrix is a world based on love.
After having got past Persephone in Enter the Matrix, I offer another theory though. The first Matrix, the perfect world that no human mind would accept, the one that caused a massive system crash might’ve been a heavenly Nirvana. Persephone might have helped create that once upon a time.


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thats a cool idea!


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