That was a dead planet as in the civilization was dead. Not that the planet was literally dead.
That's a pathetic showing for both Galactus and Celestials. The Galactus Engine was stated below in power to Shuma Gorath and other Elder Gods and he stomped pretty much 20 Galactus level beings?
That if anything shows Celestials and Galactus aren't what they are used to be.
Scrier ran away from a ghost of Mephisto and had to cheapshot him for beating him by adding his power to Agatha Harkness.
Shuma Gorath was always portrayed as being a mystic powerhouse. Strange's aura with Shuma's powers would have shattered galaxies if he was allowed to enter 616 reality.
Scrier is a schemer. He's never revealed the true extent of his power. This is stated on panel too. Him creating ONE THOUSAND Thors and Surfers instantly is an incredible display of power.
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So if human life vanished from earth but plant and animal life was still there, Earth would be considered a dead world?
Gorath's fight with Strange was threatening to collapse all the nether realms. He's conquered over 1000 dimensions.
It was a scheme. His true power level was made known much later in the Thor Annual. Oblivion, one of the four big abstracts, straight up said if Scrier and Other go at it, the multiverse gets taken down. Something he admitted Chaos King (we all saw how powerful he was) came close to doing but ultimately failed.
Did you read the scan regarding those 'mental constructs'? I'm quoting "each an individual, each an extension of the persona that birthed it." Other's minions were TROUNCING Thor and Surfer. These 'mental constructs' were easily THor and Surfer's equal and helped turn the tide vs the Other's minions. At the very least Scrier created THOUSANDS of High Herald level beings. There's no lowballing that.
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You are simply confusing the dead world being totally devoid of biosphere.
Surfer states clearly that Galactus only feeds on planets which sustain life but he will not allow him to destroy civilizations.
And Dr. Strange has beaten him alone. Way to go Gorath.
Odin's fight with Seth was tearing the fabric of multiverse itself.
That's rubbish. Just because he fought Galactus later doesn't makes his appearance earlier less indicative of his power.
Hyperbole. They were tossing planets at each other for ****'s sake. How do you go from Planets to destroying multiverse when Thor and Surfer who were nearby didn't even sustain anything?
They were not fighting in reality. It was all a mental battle if you have actually read the comic and not the scans.
Those were no high heralds. Those were just thoughts from Thor and Surfer fighting Other on mental plane.
whoa there. Are you implying that classic strange having to utilize black magic and absorb the power of several different demon lords in order to have a fighting chance against shuma isn't impressive? That's like saying that Superman having to sundip in order to have a fighting chance against imperiex isn't impressive. Also, it should be noted that dormammu and mephisto were basically called rodents in comparison to shuma.
"I will not allow him to devour culture, societies, life". You left out the whole quote. So tell me if you would describe the planet Earth sans humans as a dead world devoid of life.
Dr. Strange has defeated the IB and held his own against Adam Warlock with the IG. Strange only beat him because they were at Stonehendge and Gorath was still weak from his slumber. Scans here :
Weak from slumber (please log in to view the image)
Even weakened, only beaten because they fought at Stone Hendge : (please log in to view the image)
Call me when Shuma Gorath gets pummeled by a guy wielding a shovel.
It wasn't hyperbole, Oblivion himself stated this. Scrier and Other's fight would have destroyed the multiverse. Not tore at it, not rock it, DESTROYED IT. Doing more damage than Chaos King himself. It's right there on panel: (please log in to view the image)
And regarding the THOUSAND Surfers and Thors it was not a mental battle : (please log in to view the image)
You see them being PHYSICALLY overwhelmed by the Other's minions.
It becomes more than physical when they bust through the barrier and enter the Other's realm : (please log in to view the image)
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Yes he was and even then he had to be taken to Stonehendge to do it. It's all right there on panel, unless you got proof otherwise?
It was not hyperbole. WE saw the damage CK did to the multiverse, Oblivion said Scrier/Other's fight would surpass that and then some.
It was not a mental battle in 616 reality, it took an odd turn when they entered Other's realm which is chaotic and unnatural. It's right there on panel.
The Other actually did kill Galactus but that was alt reality and we have no clue on Galactus' hunger level. It happened off panel.
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