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Ant, it's one thing arguing for a position, and if you want to argue for this one so be it. But acting like you can establish some objective rule everyone else must follow seems weirdly pretentious to be honest.
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After new evidence showing that Valkorion may have actually lost to the Outlander, and Beni's gif of Arcann getting kicked and beaten up by a random person with a blaster, should we recontexualize the two emperors closer to Sirak than to a superior like, say, Caedus?
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Abeloth, in spite of incredible power at her disposal, lost many avatars in battles. Those losses eventually weakened her to the extent that she could not longer maintain her presence.
No matter how strong a character is, he is likely to experience setbacks in wars and/or confrontations.
I heard that's not Legends canon though. But if it is well we have 5 Sith with quotes saying they surpassed those before them:
Palpatine
Plaguies
Bane
Valkorion
Exar Kun
Though I know no one will actually agree with this proposal, one can make somewhat of a chain using this. Only problem might be Kun/Valkorion, since Kun is said to be stronger than all Sith before him and technically post Nathema Vitiate is before Kun.
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I thought it was common sense that Vitiate/Valkorion was above Plagueis; guess not. Revan is arguable I guess (but I maintain my Revan>Plagueis stance.)