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TPM Darth Sidious vs Emperor Valkorion (Force only)
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Nephthys
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None?


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SunRazer
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I'm pretty sure the nexus would've flowed through both of them.

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Geistalt
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Was using, rather. Arcann's lightsaber dueling amp made no difference whatsoever, since Valkorion could bare-handed block it–but, when Valkorion chose to fry Arcann unconscious with his Force Lightning, Arcann's defenses (or lack thereof) improved/gained little.


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By his lightsaber dueling amp, I meant the amp for things like Force Rage and Force Speed (assuming that Arcann was even taught how to use them).


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I meant the specific abilities Valkorion was using, rather than the abilities that Valkorion relied on (just so no one counter-argues that my argument didn't have any depth or substance).


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Sidious wins.


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@SunRazer has lost his mind. Time for him to seek medical attention.

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Deronn Solo
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Valkorion wins.


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The Ellimist
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There's the blurb which puts Plagueis over Vitiate, which nobody has come up with a counter for beyond their gut and emotional biases.

There's Sidious unbalancing the Force itself...which nobody has come up with a counter for beyond their gut and emotional biases.

Sidious wins.


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Deronn Solo
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Well, Valkorion is clearly above Vitiate by a quality margin, and we don't know exactly how much more powerful Plague is compared to Vitiate, so there is that.

As for the unbalancing thing, don't know how to measure that in combative sense since it's a showing of raw power than anything else.


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Valkorion wins.


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As for the unbalancing thing, don't know how to measure that in combative sense since it's a showing of raw power than anything else.
Given that Valkorion failed to cause such a level of imbalance, or any imbalance at all, the answer should be obvious.

There's the also added lack of evidence regarding major growth between TPM & RotS, in which Sidious overpowered Yoda.

Yeah, siding with Sheev tbh.


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Nephthys
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Lol, hardly. Krayt unbalanced the Force, Luke didn't. Krayt > Luke??? Stuff happening differently doesn't indicate anything one way or the other. Sidious had already unbalanced the Force and made himself the fulcrum of that unbalancing anyway.


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You people could come up with so much more compelling and interesting arguments without using the unquantifiable imbalance feat. So dew it. smile


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The Force resorted to immaculate conception of the Chosen One to defeat Sidious, lol.


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Lol, hardly. Krayt unbalanced the Force, Luke didn't. Krayt > Luke???
Wow. Could you have come out with anything more retarded?
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Sidious had already unbalanced the Force and made himself the fulcrum of that unbalancing anyway.
In which case his power deepened it far further than ever before. And with his death, the balance was entirely restored.


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Ya know in order to settle this whole thing with who is stronger, why not just ask BW? Would seem a lot simpler then trying to figure it out.


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You people could come up with so much more compelling and interesting arguments without using the unquantifiable imbalance feat. So dew it. smile
You first, I'm in need of a good laugh. smile


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Well I mean, it's a good laugh for me, (and I'd like to think quite a few people) reading about how Sidious is some almighty Galactic force who can juggle planets and shake stars. smile


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He is though...


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