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TPM Darth Sidious vs Emperor Valkorion (Force only)
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Beniboybling
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Well I mean, it's a good laugh for me, (and I'd like to think quite a few people) reading about how Sidious is some almighty Galactic force who can juggle planets and shake stars. smile
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Valkorian easily.


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The anheroism has begun smilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmile

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Valkorian easily.
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Valkorion easily.
When you are indistinguishable from Neph. smile


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I don't disagree much with Neph on TOR opinions. Only his PT/OT ones.


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"i'm too weak" - sheev, to anakin, 19bby

smile . sidious' words are a primary source. valkorion>vitiate>mace>sheev.

and no he wasn't putting that on that's just gut feeling and emotional biases from the sheev fanboys.


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Valkorion.

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"i'm too weak" - sheev, to anakin, 19bby

smile . sidious' words are a primary source. valkorion>vitiate>mace>sheev.

and no he wasn't putting that on that's just gut feeling and emotional biases from the sheev fanboys.


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smile . hey apparently all dismissal of the blurb are gut feelings and emotional biases so why can't dismissal of sheev's own words about his pathetic weak ass bitchery be ignored in the same vein?

sidious' words are also primary source. smile. primary source>tacky quaternary sources. dont deny it sheev fanboys.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
When you are indistinguishable from Neph. smile

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Anyway, I ranked Valk higher in the last days, but so EoTPM Sidious.
Yeah, Sids wins, in a very good one.


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Blurbs can be ignored if they are outright contradicted by actual showings.

Sheev's words can be ignored for two reasons; one, because the words do not come from a third person narrative statement but out of the mouth of a character meaning the statement is fallible, secondly it doesn't even show us if Sidious himself believes the statement as the scene doesn't take place from Sidious's perspective. And finally it's indicated he is faking because he was able to blast Windu's blade out of his hand with lightning and had a chance to cut Windu down early on that he did not take. All that in conjunction is enough for those who hold the stance you brought up to feel justified in it.


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I don't disagree much with Neph on TOR opinions. Only his PT/OT ones.
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I BRANG IT BACK!!! NOBODY HAS USED THAT MEME FOR A YEAR TILL I STARTED DOING IT!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!


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Syndicate, how is the blurb contradicted?


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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Well, Valkorion is clearly above Vitiate by a quality margin, and we don't know exactly how much more powerful Plague is compared to Vitiate, so there is that.
It's still wrong to argue that Valkorion's more powerful than Plagueis on the basis of him not being a Sith (which he is).

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Blurbs can be ignored if they are outright contradicted by actual showings.

Sheev's words can be ignored for two reasons; one, because the words do not come from a third person narrative statement but out of the mouth of a character meaning the statement is fallible, secondly it doesn't even show us if Sidious himself believes the statement as the scene doesn't take place from Sidious's perspective. And finally it's indicated he is faking because he was able to blast Windu's blade out of his hand with lightning and had a chance to cut Windu down early on that he did not take. All that in conjunction is enough for those who hold the stance you brought up to feel justified in it.
wow sheev fanboys in full denial mode, this is getting depressing. the gut feelings and emotional biases are real. thumb up . let's just chuck out all character statements because there is an outside chance they are wrong. of course only do this when those statements hurt our beloved sheev. also even star wars.com says that whether sidious held back is totally up to dispute and gillard puts him on same level as well as GL. that means that all the chances sidious didn't take are a sign of his incompotence and as a result valkorion will tool him casually. can't beat somebody when you've got shit accuracy thumb up


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Sidious is just cosmologically more powerful, by both his feats in Force unbalancing and holistic intent. You could say that this doesn't translate into combat, but Valkorion is one of the most incompetent fighters of all time, so combat probably leans even more towards Sidious.


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