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MythLord
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Implied by the narrative? Sidious basically one-shotted Galen in the TFU Dark Side ending and I doubt Vader would've performed much better in a legitimate fight there by his side.

Vader's delusions(some made when he didn't even know the full strength of Palpatine) doesn't count as canon.

Vader being 4/5s of Sidious is just referring to potential since Lucas thinks Vader is closer to Maul and Dooku than he is Vader, and the quote refers to the quadriplegic amputee on Mustafar.

Yoda stalemating Sidious, who was tooling Maul and Savage while toying around, is more than enough to suggest he can take two Vaders.


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I'd say his statement align with what's implied by other characters, stated by Vader, implied by the narrative, and even Lucas' Vader being 8/10 Palpatine's power quote.


And what exactly are these other characters' and the narrator's implications? As for Vader's statements, the last I heard him assessing his chances to defeat his master he concluded it was hopeless.

Lucas has no authority over Legends anymore.

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It's a running theme in Star Wars that two Vader level characters --- be it Vader/Luke, Vader/Starkiller, Vader/Murr, etc can pose a legit threat to Sidious.


Vader and RotJ Luke? If they were a threat, they would've joined forces and attempted to defeat the Emperor. Yet Vader prevented Luke from attacking Sidious. Same for Vader and Galen in TFU I. If Vader thought they had a chance, he wouldn't have betrayed Galen. As for Muur, Vader had no idea how powerful he was; he only considered the possibility. Hardly conclusive evidence.

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Yoda loses because he hasn't shown the feats, to defeat two Vader level being simultaneously.


Yet he has shown he can disarm and contend with a being worth a hundred Vaders. He has shown to be able to speedblitz three beings in Vader's speed class. He wins.


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Implied by the narrative? Sidious basically one-shotted Galen in the TFU Dark Side ending and I doubt Vader would've performed much better in a legitimate fight there by his side.


DS ending isn't even canon, lmao. Even then, Galen's Force reserves were hardly 100% after fighting through an virtual army of Imperial Forces, and Darth Vader himself.

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Vader's delusions(some made when he didn't even know the full strength of Palpatine) doesn't count as canon.


Shit rebuttal.Vader/Anakin is very aware of Yoda's power, and he knew Palpatine is was able to best him in combat. I would say he had a pretty good estimate of Sidious powers, if not exactly.

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Vader being 4/5s of Sidious is just referring to potential since Lucas thinks Vader


Nah, the wording made it clear he was referring to actual power given the wording. As for Vader being closer to Maul and Dooku, citation?

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Yoda stalemating Sidious, who was tooling Maul and Savage.


Maul and Savage is nowhere near Vader, lmao.


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Yet he has shown he can disarm and contend with a being worth a hundred Vaders.


There is no sense in me even getting in a discussion with you, if this is how you honestly feel.


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The first mistake being made here is assuming Sidious is analogous with Yoda. He isn't.


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DS ending isn't even canon, lmao. Even then, Galen's Force reserves were hardly 100% after fighting through an virtual army of Imperial Forces, and Darth Vader himself.


It still shows what would happen, if the game took that course of events. It is legitimate, since I doubt they'd just forget previously established power-levels.



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Shit rebuttal. Vader/Anakin is very aware of Yoda's power, and he knew Palpatine is was able to best him in combat. I would say he had a pretty good estimate of Sidious powers, if not exactly.


Is he really? Anakin thought he rivalled Yoda as a duelist, lmao.

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Nah, the wording made it clear he was referring to actual power given the wording. As for Vader being closer to Maul and Dooku, citation?


It was referring to what Anakin's potential could've one day led him to be, then how he's now 80% Sidious, and it's talking about the events of RotS and I doubt a quadriplegic is going to rival Sheev.

Don't have the quote on hand, but it was during his interview with Rolling Stones, IIRC.

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Maul and Savage is nowhere near Vader, lmao.


Collectively? They sure as well are. And a toying Sidious reduced them to children.


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There is no sense in me even getting in a discussion with you, if this is how you honestly feel.


thumb up he thinks DE Sidious can solo this entire thread in 1 second:

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I've seen Sidious and Luke wankers before, but...this is beyond anything I've ever seen. And I thought Ellimist worshipped Sheev. smile


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Vaders.


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Which Yoda? Which Vader?


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Which Yoda? Which Vader?
Battle of the handicap stickers.


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No way Yoda would beat 2 Vaders. He'd have trouble with one

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There is no sense in me even getting in a discussion with you, if this is how you honestly feel.


I was hyperbole, lol. My point was that Sidious is worth a lot more than two Vader's.


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thumb up he thinks DE Sidious can solo this entire thread in 1 second:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...us+forumid%3A86

I've seen Sidious and Luke wankers before, but...this is beyond anything I've ever seen. And I thought Ellimist worshipped Sheev. smile


I can 1v1 you if you want to smile


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Two Vaders win, but with extreme difficulty.

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No way Yoda would beat 2 Vaders. He'd have trouble with one

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