Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Why would erasing a universe hurt him? Does erasing a letter hurt the writer?
Zeno clearly has some kind of unique power, akin to Babidi's magic. That doesn't make him physically powerful, any more then Babidi's power to warp reaity makes him strong.
Since Zeno isn't using chi, there is no reason to believe he chi amps his physical stats.
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I'm talking about the future Trunks arc. Zen-Oh literally stood in the middle of universal Armageddon and was completely unscathed.
Why should I believe Zen-Ohs power isn't ki? Literally every god in existence possesses God ki, I see no reason to believe Zen-Oh is any different.
You also have to remember that when Zen-Oh threatened to erase his guards, they got scared shitless. Which wouldn't be the case if they were infinitely faster than him and could kill him with a single punch.
The idea that the Gods of Gods that causes Beerus to shit his pants would get bodied by a bullet is absolutely hilarious.
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Yeah, that's as crazy as a pre-schooler robot beating up a SSJ God.
Come on, it's Toriyama sama. You KNOW in your heart of hearts this isn't exactly beneath the kind of stuff he'd pull.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Daishinkan ends up being stronger than Zen-Oh, or the being that sent the angels being stronger than Zen-Oh, but a bullet? C'mon man.
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He's stomped worse without prep. Dragon Ball characters have next to NO magic resistance.
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I've been incognito for like a year, but just so we're clear, I'd say that the weakest character I can see pulling a W on Zeno, would be... Maybe PC Anti-monitor? And all the guys Skills listed, of course, with the possible exceptions of Doom and Thanos.
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I give Thanos the W because of his utter mastery of all aspects of reality while wielding the IG, and God Doom is beyond the power of the IG, or LT for that matter, entirely IMO.
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Well the problem I have with the IG in general isn’t that, yeah it’s shown to be infinitely powerful, but only on a universal level. Omni-king is clearly multiversal with little to no effort. I don’t see Thanos overcoming that, even with the IG. I personally haven’t seen enough to be sure either way though. I’ve made it clear many times that I’m far less familiar with Marvel than I am with DC or anime, lol.
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The IG can destroy a universe as whimsically as we've seen from Zen-Oh, and more impressively, can create a universe ex nihilo just as casually. Moreover, the IG possesses far more *depth* of power in any given universe than we've seen from Zen-Oh(as mentioned, the IG possesses complete mastery over every single facet of creation -- time/space/power/reality/mind/soul.)
...Heck, who's to say the IG couldn't just mind-f*ck Zen-Oh into submission?
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What makes creating a universe more impressive than destroying one?
And Zeno destroyed the entire timeline that Future Trunks came from, which means it’s past, present, and future. He did this as effortlessly as he destroys individual universes. That’s more impressive than universe busting. He literally erased a continuum of the DB storyline, and all the dimensions existing within it.That alone is a nigh-multiversal feat.
I’m not saying he’d win either way, but he’s a lot more powerful than you’re giving him credit for. I don’t know about the mind gem in the gauntlet, but time itself has been overpowered by beings weaker than Zeno, in DBS. It doesn’t seem like Zeno has much mind to control in the first place. I couldn’t see that really doing anything to him.
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I don’t recall that, but what does that matter? The Supreme Kai’s are the ones that create stars, as far as I remember. None of them are even close to Whiss in terms of strength.
Right, but could someone travel to a point afterwards? It was stated that they couldn’t, which is what I was referring to. It essentially makes it more impressive than universe busting because Zamasu was affecting multiple timelines.
Right, but Hit wasn’t overpowered, time stop was overpowered. This distinction has been made in Super on several occasions. Goku and Jiren were literally able to move so fast/give off so much energy that they literally moved faster than time itself. This is vastly more impressive than you’re clearly willing to admit.
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...what? Naturally if you destroy something, it will remain destroyed in the future. You just claimed that Zen-Oh's destruction of Trunk's timeline erased the past, which is factually not true.
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Jul 16th, 2017 11:40 PM
indeed. Hillariously underpowered god.
