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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so...at what point in your semantics clownshoe shenanigans do you think you will have sucessfully altered reality to the point where a college blacks-only party now equates to jim crow laws? keep up the hard work. you can do it, cuckboy!


Hey dipshit: nobody said it equates to Jim Crow laws. I asked you flat out what you feel enforced meant. You said you go by the dictionary definition and not feelings. I give you it the definition, and then you go "oh you're stripping it of historical context and it's true meaning!". Then you say it's semantics...semantics to go by the definition you *just said you go by*.

You are an idiot. There is no way around this. Either you are trolling or you have some mental deficiency.


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Hey dipshit: nobody said it equates to Jim Crow laws. I asked you flat out what you feel enforced meant. You said you go by the dictionary definition and not feelings. I give you it the definition, and then you go "oh you're stripping it of historical context and it's true meaning!". Then you say it's semantics...semantics to go by the definition you *just said you go by*.

You are an idiot. There is no way around this. Either you are trolling or you have some mental deficiency.


#triggered

you're the one trying to assert a false-equivalency, simple guy. your life is a joke.


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you're the one trying to force a false-equivalency. your life is a joke.


Lol dude, stop posting. You are digging this hole deeper. I flat out went by what *you* provided. You told me it wasn't enforced segregation. I asked you what you feel enforced means, you said you don't "feel" meanings you look them up in the dictionary. I do so, I provide the definition, and suddenly you aren't so fond of dictionaries anymore.

You're pathetic at this point.


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Lol dude, stop posting. You are digging this hole deeper. I flat out went by what *you* provided. You told me it wasn't enforced segregation. I asked you what you feel enforced means, you said you don't "feel" meanings you look them up in the dictionary. I do so, I provide the definition, and suddenly you aren't so fond of dictionaries anymore.

You're pathetic at this point.


oh look the same semantics games. you're so clever to repeat it. that's a 5x combo pretend win you've racked up so far. keep it up, clownshoes.


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oh look the same semantics games. you're so clever. keep repeating your fallacy, clownshoes.


Lmao, don't like your own posts being used against you....do you?


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Lmao, don't like your own posts being used against you....do you?


oh wait, you pretend-won this argument as well? good for you thumb up


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What Surt appears to be saying is that so long as no white people turn up and are then forcibly removed it's not segregation and therefore... not racist.

What a ridiculous position you've worked yourself into. laughing


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What Surt appears to be saying is that so long as no white people turn up and are then forcibly removed it's not segregation and therefore... not racist.

What a ridiculous position you've worked yourself into. laughing


eventually we'll realize that we've been defending something JUST LIKE jim-crow all along. because technically if a white person was asked to leave an all-black college party, thats racial segregation. wacko


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oh wait, you pretend-won this argument as well? good for you thumb up


Lol, yeah...pretty much this is what you fall back on every time now when your BS is called out. Either you act like people are dodging stuff in order to call you out, or you dismiss it as a "pretend victory". It's funny.

But there is no victory for me here. You pretty much defeated yourself.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
What Surt appears to be saying is that so long as no white people turn up and are then forcibly removed it's not segregation and therefore... not racist.

What a ridiculous position you've worked yourself into. laughing


Nice try, I went by what Bash said. It's enforced segregation, what does enforced mean? I gave the dictionary definition, which he said he uses.

I never said they would for sure physically remove whites if they showed up, but unless they are going to actually allow whites to just stay if they try to crash it(I doubt it) yeah, that is enforcing segregation.

This isn't hard, I'm going by your pals own posts.


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Nice try, I went by what Bash said. It's enforced segregation, what does enforced mean? I gave the dictionary definition, which he said he uses.

I never said they would for sure physically remove whites if they showed up, but unless they are going to actually allow whites to just stay if they try to crash it(I doubt it) yeah, that is enforcing segregation.

This isn't hard, I'm going by your pals own posts.
Right so again as long as nobody turns up and are forcibly removed, its not enforced segregation. I got that part.


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eventually we'll realize that we've been defending something JUST LIKE jim-crow all along.

That's a terrible argument.

By that logic you could just ignore any black person who claims to have faced hateful slurs or racism by saying "well that's a shitty false equivalency your trying to draw between that and slavery! You ****ing idiot!"

Just because one immoral thing is not taken to the same magnitude as something else doesn't mean it's not wrong.


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That's a terrible argument.

By that logic you could just ignore any black person who claims to have faced hateful slurs or racism by saying "well that's a shitty false equivalency your trying to draw between that and slavery! You ****ing idiot!"

Just because one immoral thing is not taken to the same magnitude as something else doesn't mean it's not wrong.


so we're back to the question: what was immoral about black college kids throwing a black's only party that they paid for? why should they be demonized exclusively while other ethnicities are permitted do the same, unchallenged?

my guess: because racists refuse to see that "white" is not an ethnicity in america, but rather a collection of euro-american ethnicities which deliberately and conveniently excludes non-white americans.


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because.


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because.


maybe i'll get another "agree to disagree" non-retort. we shall see.


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it's all implied by saying "black". granted there are a minority of black americans who come from voluntary immigrant ancestry. but most are just "black". they have nothing more to trace back to, whereas whites (and likely you as well) have knowledge of our heritage (beyond just 'white')that we can come together and take some shallow meaningless pride in. italian american, irish american, german, dutch, english, etc. if any of these white ethnicities groups together exclusively under that identity, they are not labeled racist. blacks however are apparently not able to do the same without being demonized.

you're ignoring the overal reality of my observation with technicalities. yes the issue is confused when considering voluntary black immigrants. it's a complex issue that can be explained thoroughly via twitter or some meme.

Here's the issue though, I never see these gatherings discussed as a matter of ethnicity. I don't see why black specifically implies "those of lost ethnicities because of slavery" because I've never seen anybody before you ever make that distinction or bring that up as a topic of conversation.

In fact, I've looked it up and the articles I can find defending it seem to suggest this movement was borne out of activism specifically related to racial tension rather than ethnicity, and as is shown by the first article no distinction is made between blacks descended from slaves and those descended from voluntary immigrants, which does make it seem based around race rather than ethnicity:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/harvard-ho...ts-only-1620929
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Courtney Woods, the daughter of a Jamaican immigrant who will graduate from Harvard's School of Education, said that the ceremony recognises the contributions and sacrifices the families of black students have made to get them to Harvard.

"When we walk across that stage, all of our families will know that they're walking with us. They all know the sacrifices that they've made," she said.


https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/...ut-segregation/ (I know, not an article defending it, but the quote from the organizer still emphasizes the racial rather than ethnic focus)
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Michael Huggins, who is set to graduate this year with a master’s degree in public policy, told The Root. “Too often at Harvard, there is not cross-discipline contact between black students. So it can feel like you are the only person of color.”


http://www.bet.com/news/national/20...n-graduati.html
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Aside from studying and taking grueling tests, if you’re a minority, the outer pressures of society make the already challenging coursework even more difficult. Knowing this, Black members of the class of 2017 decided to form an individual ceremony. It’s the first of its kind at the school in recent memory and took nearly a year to plan.

The separate graduation is an effort to highlight the aforementioned struggles and resilience it takes to get through those.


http://www.theroot.com/black-studen...uati-1794977320
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The event, which took nearly a year to plan and is scheduled for the morning of May 23, is an effort to acknowledge the struggles and resilience that black students have had to possess in order to thrive in higher education, an environment where minorities are typically underrepresented.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...zidL/story.html
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“I can only imagine how special I will feel when I walk across that stage and be able to honor my identity and my struggle at Harvard,” said Woods, who is completing a master’s degree at the Graduate School of Education. “I know this is exactly what students like me need to be inspired as we leave this place as emerging global leaders.”

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The ceremony for black students was created during a period of heightened activism related to racism on college campuses and in the country at large — from the Black Lives Matter movement to the increased focus on “micro-aggressions,” passing comments that seem to trivialize or marginalize the experiences of minorities.

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“I can only imagine how special I will feel when I walk across that stage and be able to honor my identity and my struggle at Harvard,” said Woods, who is completing a master’s degree at the Graduate School of Education. “I know this is exactly what students like me need to be inspired as we leave this place as emerging global leaders.”


Every article in defense of it and the students who put it on identify it as being based around race and racial tensions rather than ethnic ties in slavery, and you're the only person identifying it as ethnic, so this notion that it's justified because its based around ethnicity rather than race is one that I simply don't think is substantiated by any evidence or discussion that went behind or in defense of this ceremony.

Additionally I noticed in one of those articles that Harvard is for the third year in a row having a special graduation ceremony for Latino students, which is a race rather than a single ethnicity, and unlike with descendants of slaves there isn't that same ethnic confusion you've cited in defense of blacks. Do you consider this to be racist?:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/nlanter...uation-ceremony


And lastly, though this entire post has been arguing against this ceremony, I did come across something in one of these articles that, to the credit of those hosting this ceremony, makes me look at it in a less negative light, and it's one relevant to your discussion with Surtur:

quote:
But the ceremony is “not about segregation,” said Michael Huggins, president of the Harvard Black Graduate Student Alliance, which is organizing the event. Students of all racial and ethnic backgrounds may attend, he said, and the black students taking part in the ceremony also plan to attend the university’s official commencement on May 25 in Harvard Yard.


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Here's the issue though, I never see these gatherings discussed as a matter of ethnicity. I don't see why black specifically implies "those of lost ethnicities because of slavery" because I've never seen anybody before you ever make that distinction or bring that up as a topic of conversation.


that's your evidence to dismiss my point that afro-american is the defacto ethnicity of the majority of american black people because of slavery? that you never heard it?

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In fact, I've looked it up and the articles I can find defending it seem to suggest this movement was borne out of activism specifically related to racial tension rather than ethnicity, and as is shown by the first article no distinction is made between blacks descended from slaves and those descended from voluntary immigrants, which does make it seem based around race rather than ethnicity:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/harvard-ho...ts-only-1620929


the debate is over whether it is wrong/racist for black people to have a blacks-only party, and whether that equates to whites-only. what you are attempting is to shift the debate from this and turn it into a character-trial of this particular group. weak thumb down

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Every article in defense of it and the students who put it on identify it as being based around race and racial tensions rather than ethnic ties in slavery, and you're the only person identifying it as ethnic, so this notion that it's justified because its based around ethnicity rather than race is one that I simply don't think is substantiated by any evidence or discussion that went behind or in defense of this ceremony.


because fact dictates that the majority of black americans are of untraceable slave decent. but you've never heard this before so somehow that means the fact is wrong.


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Additionally I noticed in one of those articles that Harvard is for the third year in a row having a special graduation ceremony for Latino students, which is a race rather than a single ethnicity, and unlike with descendants of slaves there isn't that same ethnic confusion you've cited in defense of blacks. Do you consider this to be racist?:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/nlanter...uation-ceremony


no i do not consider it racist, given that it's not a majority-collective of americans designed to exclude a small minority of americans. that doesn't mean i like it. (i dislike isolationist cliques of all kinds) same for asian-only or muslim-only. if a latinos-only ceremony was held in a latino-majority country, it most certainly would be racist.


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TIL: Self funded private party of black students is equivalent to 'Whites Only" schools, bathrooms, drinking fountains, forced sitting at the back of the bus, theater, stadiums etc., cos reasons


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I am unable to respond today due to a physics final this evening and a calculus final tomorrow morning. I'll get back to you tomorrow or friday.


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TIL: Self funded private party of black students is equivalent to 'Whites Only" schools, bathrooms, drinking fountains, forced sitting at the back of the bus, theater, stadiums etc., cos reasons


they didn't actually say that in those words. just implied the shit out of it.


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