Oh shut up. Touch-screens are annoying as balls to use compared to keyboard and mouse, the UI is ****ing cockstench and its way the **** more tedious to get sources and quote them than it is on a home computer. I've never even tried screen-shotting because eff that bollocks. Phones suck shit to use for anything more extensive than texting.
Umm, no it doesn't? It just means he wasn't powerful enough, at that point in time to complete the ritual by his lonesome. A ritual, that is quite frankly, the most complex we've ever seen on the Star Wars universe. It doesn't undermine my point that Tenebrae was significantly powerful at that point.
To hammer in my point, specifically:
- Tenebrae, had the knowledge and mastery over the Force to design the most complex ritual in the history of the galaxy. Having such a understanding and profound degree in knowing the inner workings of the Force. His ability to actively construct complex holocrons and even trap the spirit of his father, Lord Dramath in one --- also shows a near unrivaled display of Force knowledge.
- Various sources, even Darth Plagueis in particular, has hinted/flat out stated, that knowledge equal power, and it is the route to be taken if one wants to increase his or her strength in the Force, and, as showed above, Tenebrae had that in abundance. In order for one to have such an understanding over the complexity of the Force, they must be vastly powerful in it.
- Knowledge is nothing if one lacks the raw power to effectively use it{Kinda a oxymorinic statement now that i think about it. Good thing, Tenebrae has feats killing his father and striping him of his powers, taking over an entire planet at a 13 year old and amassing a legion of loyal followers, and accolades that label him as being a "Force prodigy" "supremely strong". Also, the fact he was even able to man the ritual is a showing of power in the Force in itself.
Given it has repeatedly been showed the the more knowledge you gain, the more power you become, and generally - knowledge equals power - and the fact Tenebrae obviously had raw power and knowledge --- I think my argument holds up against scrutiny that Tenebrae was extremely powerful even before the ritual. Tenebrae's knowledge already superseded Bane's by this point, and his raw power to apply that knowledge to was there as well.
All in all, I don't see the two being too far off from each other. Feel free to disagree.
I rank Naga above Bane, and Ludo slightly behind Naga. So, nah. Rhis doesn't really undermine my argument in the slightest.
Uhh, no? I only conceded to the fact that he didn't literally have the power of 8,000 Sith Lords and a planet, and that a good chunk of it went into making himself conditionally immortal. The ritual has both been stated to increase his capacity and "fuel" his power in the Force. I mean, it's absolutely silly to even suggest it wouldn't. That's even assuming capacity means potential from the get-go.
Regardless of if he quite literally has that gargantuan amount of power to actively call upon in a battle or not: absorbing that power of that magnitude is going to make one exponentially more powerful than they were before, and even having 1/1,000 of that energy, to pull from is so far above Bane, it's comical.
There goes Tenebrous scaling case.
Dunno what you're spouting off about here....
Novel Vitiate, aside from beating DC members under unknown circumstances - a feat he has never ever replicated I might add - is essentially a featless character.
lal, what?
He has feats throughout the entire book.
-We know he mind wrecked Revan and Malak, with only a fraction of his power.
- He obliterated Revan's astromech droid into a billion pieces
- He overloaded/defeated Revan's tutanimus and utterly fried him with Lightning
As for the DC member feat, unless I have reason to believe he destroyed by some prepped up means [which, you have no concrete evidence of], I'm going to assume he defeated them via non-circumstantial means. Not like it's far fetched given he was "infinitely" more powerful than one of the more vaunted members on the DC, in Nyriss.
All of which, is better than moving rocks, and shielding yourself from an explosion.
Not really, lmao.
It would help if you actually understood my argument before you post crap like this.
Nah, it's clear as day that Vitiate is > Revan. Even accounting for the nexus, Revan lost rather comfortably and at times, Revan even drawed on the darkside of the Force, particularly why he was able to telekinetically punch Vitiate when he was distracted attempting to telepathically dominate his Revan's will.
Wait, what?
Except, Darth Nihilus and co. was painted as inferior threat(s) to Vitiate throughout the entire book. As much as people like to use fanon ways to explain KotOR Exile being =/= Novel Meeta, there really isn't any actual canon statements backing that up.
The lowballing Nyriss is comical, Darth Sidious himself was killed by his own attack. There is no shame in Nyriss getting killed by a much more powerful Revan. Hell, Nyriss Force feats share parity with Bane, as well as her augmentation and knowledge in the Force (arguably).
Given Revan shits on Bane, yeah, he does.
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DE Palpatine was intended to show how strong an Ancient Sith Lord is, and Vitiate is the strongest of the Ancients so he wins.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
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