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TFA vs Rogue One
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Petrus
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Lmfao.


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TFA was clearly the far superior movie. Really do not understand why so many people have R1 ahead of it.

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Originally posted by S W LeGenD
TFA was clearly the far superior movie. Really do not understand why so many people have R1 ahead of it.
Because TFA was pushing a liberal agenda and was the farthest thing from original plot.


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NewGuy01
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Because TFA was an ANH copy-paste taking place in a less interesting time period with a less interesting protagonist than Rogue One.


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Honestly, while I found the lack of originality of TFA disappointing, I did legitimately enjoy TFA.

That being said, Rogue One does rank higher for me. Between it's plot originality, it's more fast paced nature, and the fact that I'm actually set up to be emotionally invested in the Rebels (unlike the new Republic, where the only reason I gave a shit about the destruction of the Hosnian system was Harrison Ford's sad face and John William's sad music), it was just more exciting for me to watch, not to mention it feels more like a war with the grittier combat scenes, and HOLY SHIT the space battle.

I also enjoyed how Rogue One was less morally black and white with even some of the good guys making hard calls and doing morally dubious things, whereas the most morally dubious shit in TFA from a good guy was "should I help out or run away from the fight."

I also preferred the villains of Rogue One, don't get me wrong, I actually enjoyed Kylo Ren as a character, and thought Hux's passion driven extremist speech was a good choice for the character, but we know next to nothing about Snoke, Phasma was absolute shit, and Hux was relatively undeveloped, whereas Rogue One did an excellent job portraying the Empire and Krennic and Tarkin. Not to mention that the rivalry between Krennic and Tarkin was actually something real with conflict over who gets credit for the Death Star, threats, passive aggressive compliments, and Tarkin knowingly ordering Krennic's death at the end, which definitely trumps the nasty looks Kylo and Hux shot each other during their conversations with Snoke. And again, even though I actually like Kylo and his character development... he just can't compare with the OG. Sure Vader wasn't in Rogue One that much, but both of his scenes were perfect.

And lastly, Rogue One just does a better job building off of the lore. It expands upon the origins of the Death Star, the Rebel alliance, the Empire, Darth Vader, the retrieval of the Death Star plans, does a lot of world building, and just ties up a lot of loose ends and connects and fits into the existing canon lore almost perfectly (aside from the Leia/Vader convo which is a little shaky). TFA on the other hand, while it does do some world building and sets up for a new trilogy, it honestly doesn't do the best job building off of what before it, instead of building off of a Galaxy freed from tyranny, it's resetting the plot to the ANH Empire/First Order vs Rebels/Resistance oppressor underdog dynamic, with the most building off of the ROTJ victory being the New Republic, which we got to spend zero time with before its destruction. On top of this, again while I enjoyed the movie, Luke running away makes zero sense given the way ROTJ set up his character arc.


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Sinious
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Not sure which one was more devastating: the cancer I got from reading through some of the posts in this thread or the AIDS I got from Neph's "Rey Palpatine"

I just hope Beni dies.


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TFA will always be better. smile


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I just hope Beni dies.
quote: (post)
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TFA will always be better. smile
Prolly yeah.


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Originally posted by NewGuy01
Because TFA was an ANH copy-paste taking place in a less interesting time period with a less interesting protagonist than Rogue One.



This. Except I'd say the time period is only less interesting because they made it less interesting.

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Sinious
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I can't even see that broken image Beni. Were you trying to give me a third lethal disease on top of the ones I got from your thread?


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The image is fine, you are the broken one here.


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cs_zoltan
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R1 is good, TFA is the worst SW movie so far.

So yeah...


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SunRazer
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Rey Palpatine? **** off, lol.

That's on par with Snoke being Tarkin, Vader or Mace Windu.

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Sinious
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Rey Palpatine disturbs me on a very personal level. I don't even want to articulate anything about it even if it is to mock the concept. I mean, honestly, just establish him as the GOAT and then leave the character alone. Disney acting like Palpatine never existed beyond that much exposure would be the ideal scenario at this point.

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The image is fine, you are the broken one here.
That's just mean. I even tried it with a different browser. sad


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SunRazer
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I'm more disturbed the evidence they have for her being a Palpatine. She does stabbing moves like him. She has a similar accent. She's tempted by the dark side.

My mind is blown, and not in the right way.

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Sinious
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Kill me pls.


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Total Warrior
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R1 is good, TFA is the worst SW movie so far.

So yeah...
now, let's not exagerate. It was still better than TPM


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SunRazer
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One thing's for sure: ANH > TFA.

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cs_zoltan
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now, let's not exagerate. It was still better than TPM


Nah, TPM at least had the Duel of Fates. TFA had nothing.


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