Perhaps because Vader crushes At-At's (canon) or choked a guy who moves Star Destroyers (legends), whereas Kenobi gets ragdolled by pretty much every dark sider not named Anakin.
Yep. And a silly conclusion to come to when looking at a 40 year old film in which Lucas hadn't reallly worked out the ins and outs of Jedi/Sith powers or his power scaling amongst characters.
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Vader feats do not undermine their matchup. Despite people's insistence Vader is more powerful than ever look at him on rebels fail against Tano. Watch him fail against Ezra and Kanan. Watch him fail in Rogue One.
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No, he isn't. The guy didn't even disarm Tano. He's the same as he always was. Slow, full of failure, and a burn victim who just needs a good bacta bath.
I think this can be looked at again with Kenobi's quote taken into consideration.
"Kenobi gauged the shrinking distance between the oncoming troops and himself, then turned a pitying gaze on Vader. 'This is a fight you cannot win, Darth. Your power has matured since I taught you, but I too have grown much since our parting.'"
And this along with the Megalith feat, and the supersonic running feat, and the seeing through galaxy-wide darkside cloud, etc. I'm say there's a pretty convincing case for Obi-Wan being more powerful than Darth Vader.
And the fight seemed to imply this from the beginning. That quote just explains why Vader wasn't seen using all the powers he could have used. But the rest of the fight wouldn't have been under Kenobi's control had he not been more powerful.
So where would other users be put by this scaling?
Assuming that the distance between the levels is equal,
Luke during ANH is somehow already half of Vader's power at 2
Luke during RoTJ would have to be a 3, making him 3/4s of Vader's power
Vader is a 4
Caedus might be a 5
Kenobi would be above Caedus at 6
Darth Krayt, who managed to fend off a 4-5 Kenobi for a few seconds as A'Sharrad Hett, after having become more powerful would double Vader at 8
So this system doesn't seem to make too much sense within the accepted canon. I would still say that Kenobi during a New Hope is more powerful then Darth Vader, but not by such a large margin. I'm honestly willing to put ANH Kenobi at Windu level.
But it does get me thinking, how much more powerful than Kenobi would Krayt be?
Kenobi during most of RotS was one of the more powerful Jedi at the time. He defeated Grevious, was on the Council, and was one of most influencial and capable general of the Clone Wars.
During his fight with Anakin, he let go of all the burden which had held him back in life, and became much more powerful. Here he fought against Krayt, who managed to hold him off for a few seconds before he defeated him. He also ran upwards of supersonic speeds, and lifted the megalith. At this time I would put him just below than Master Windu.
His powers grew over the twenty years afterwards. At the time of his death, he was more powerful than Lord Vader, who was less powerful, but more controlled and skilled than the Anakin who a weaker Kenobi had matched. This is where I would say he surpassed even master Windu.
Darth Krayt managed to hold his own against Kenobi when he was just lower than Master Windu, and his power grew many times over since then. This would make him far more powerful than Kenobi, and rival the likes of Yoda. Seem accurate?
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