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^ The Shazam sequel has been officially announced, but BA still has not.
Do you have a link for WBs official announcement?


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^ The Wrap reported it. Which is a pretty reliable source:

https://www.thewrap.com/henry-gayden-shazam-sequel/

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^ The Shazam sequel has been officially announced, but BA still has not.


Rock said they shoot next year. Not official by the studio, but Rock is the biggest Hollywood star, so I'd take his word.

Dwayne Johnson Congratulates Shazam, Teases Black Adam Filming Start

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^ I wouldnt. They way he said it wasnt convincing at all, and hes been preaching this for like 5years now. Its a case of will believe it when it happens at this point.

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^ I wouldnt. They way he said it wasnt convincing at all, and hes been preaching this for like 5years now. Its a case of will believe it when it happens at this point.


Agree to disagree. It seems New Line is creating their own little universe. Plus, the script has already been finished, with WB's approval. He may have not seemed convincing, but maybe that's due to his uncertainty on when it'll officially be shot. Rock is the biggest star out there. Would be highly stupid for them not to make it.

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I wonder what role he would take. Maybe something in the Eternals? But, not confirmed yet.

PETER SAFRAN & HENRY GAYDEN TALK SHAZAM!, BLACK ADAM AND FUTURE OF THE DCEU


Basically, they won't have Black Adam star in a SHAZAM movie until he gets his own solo film. Seeing as Rock is one of the producers, he should star as BA.

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Gladiator, The Thing, Namor, Beta Ray Bill


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Eh, I can't see him playing any of those other than Gladiator.

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Or Black Bolt.

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Would be highly stupid for them not to make it.



Well clearly they are stupid, because its been 5 years and nothing. And now it looks like hes got bored and looking to Marvel.

That said, this could be a great tactic for him to make WB panic and get on with BA.

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Well clearly they are stupid, because its been 5 years and nothing. And now it looks like hes got bored and looking to Marvel.

That said, this could be a great tactic for him to make WB panic and get on with BA.


Better late than never. Rock wanted to be in SHAZAM, but now thinks it's better to have his own solo film.

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Eh, I can't see him playing any of those other than Gladiator.


Gladiator would be my 1st pick with his Arrogance and "as powerful as his confidence" thing and all that. Namor is similar to Black Adam attitude wise , sort of.


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^ Do Marvel even have the rights to Namor?


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Better late than never. Rock wanted to be in SHAZAM, but now thinks it's better to have his own solo film.



They have not green lit anything with him. Its no wonder hes talking to Marvel now. If Marvel has a role for him, they wont waste his time.

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^ Do Marvel even have the rights to Namor?
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Think he's in the same situation as Hulk.


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^ Do Marvel even have the rights to Namor?





They have not green lit anything with him. Its no wonder hes talking to Marvel now. If Marvel has a role for him, they wont waste his time.


I never said they green lit anything with him.

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He'd be good as Marvel's Hercules.


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I wonder what role he would take.


He's only getting hired for mediore action films.


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^ Jeez Dude even Golgo knows it took massively more than $200mill to break even.


This is a logical fallacy known as the argumentum ad populum. You can't "peer pressure" yourself into being correct. I've provided the proper commentary and citations for why your point is wrong. You've provided none.

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So how much its domestically to international ratio is also important. But a Prudent rule of thumb is to double the Production + Marketing cost.


Not a single legitimate source agrees with this. You're the only person posting this.


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You cant just double production cost and ignore marketing, especially not with superhero films, which are well known for spending an excessive amount on marketing.


You are clearly not reading my posts or the links provided. Are you trolling? If you're not trolling, then why would you post something this silly?





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Not really. Thats a pretty low number to reach for superhero films.


No, that's an absurdly high number for a super hero film. And it would be the worst budgeted movie of all time if it needed that much money put into marketing relative to it's production budget.

Find me a single movie that put $240 million in marketing.


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Any profit (especially with great reviews), justifies a sequel.


Great, so its break even point is $200 million. Glad we agree.


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^ Oh crap, thats like super trolling!

I actually know something about the subject, am trying to educate you, and in return you just have your fingers in your ears saying LA LA LA Breaking even point is $200mill! Fact!

Whose fact? Show me who said hat specifically Shazams breaking even point was $200mill.

You want me to post articles (as if articles in and of themselves are proof), fine:

Heres an article explaining how complicated it is, the difference between Domestic sales and International sales (like I tried explaining already but you completely ignored):


https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-much-mo...tab-5747305/amp

Most interesting part of the article is that the same damn studio made a loss on HARRY POTTER and The Order of the Phoenix! Which grossed $960mill on a $150mill budget:

More proof of that:

https://deadline.com/2010/07/studio...ting-51886/amp/

So how did your JUST DOUBLE THE PRODUCTION BUDGET FULL STOP dumbass theory work there for you?

And heres one which is actually talking about Shazam:

https://amp.cinemablend.com/news/24...ffice-milestone

They reckon it was just starting to break even at that point where it was around $282million. Strange they didnt just use your magic formula of doubling the production cost.

So if we take this article SPECIFICALLY talking about the film in question (since you know, articles are proof whilst im just making things up), Even Then my estimate is WAYYY closer than yours.

So im ready for an apology anytime now.


For the record, anyone giving an exact worldwide gross figure to break even is just talking crap, given it depends on how much money it made in each particular market. But at least Cinemablend somewhat addressed that, (giving its domestic and international gross at the time).

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