It seems like Brainiac is behind Lena Luthor to me. A throwback to pre-52 where she merged with brainiac in OWAW /B13 era, Rebirth [and new52 in general]seems to be grabbing and redoing old stories in different ways because of the compacted/lost time, things are happening just slightly different.
Just tossing out there Brainiac always thinks Lex is a lesser intellect because Earth itself is considered a lesser-intellect planet and he's extremely arrogant. But, it's pretty frequent in both primary and alternate universes that Lex outsmarts him consistently.
They're smart in different ways though. Brainiac can put up a plan that is multifaceted and takes years and is world, universe or multiverse level stuff. But on the fly, Lex can craft his own plan, stunt Brainiac's plan and punk him. Just look at OWAW or New Krypton storylines. The latter of which, Lex outsmarted Brainiac's plans, confronted him and talked shit to him outsmarted him again one-on-one and snapped his neck, and caused the death of New Krypton all back-to-back-to-back. Though, granted, in both of stories, Lex is on the side of Superman. But still, he knows how to use people. --- another thing evident when he helped orchestrate the fall of Alexander Luthor in Infinite Crisis. "Now who's stupid?"
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He is smarter than Vril, who is a 10th-level intellect, so I don't doubt it at all. Moreover, Vril actually took measures to neuter Lyrl's mind when he was a child, because he feared that intelligence.
*I would be more curious where Batman 1M would rank...
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I'm a pretty firm believer that nobody is smarter than Reed. The guy's brain has now been used multiple times to recreate everything. Note that this is not to say that Reed makes the best use of his brain, or that he's the most effective.
Batman 1M is implied to be quite uber, but then he had to go ahead and ask for Tim's help with AI programming, so...
Luthor, Stark, Bruce, BP, and Pym I'd all place in the same general tier. Different strengths and weaknesses, but overall close enough.
Ray's good, but I'd have to see some feats that impress me enough before I put him up there. A few bits of narration here and there elevating his status aren't enough for me.
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Here Reed states that he is only 'fractionally' smarter than Tony where single tasks are concerned, but goes on to say that Tony is the smartest there is when multiple tasks need addressed simultaneously: (please log in to view the image) "Mister Stark, on the other hand, is this world's greatest multitasker..."
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This is likely why Tony was able to school Reed at multiple games of chess simultaneously: (please log in to view the image)
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Reed later says that Tony is also the best builder there is. Period.: (please log in to view the image) "There's no one --absolutely NO ONE-- who can do the things he does. If we're talking about building, well, then we should be taking our best builder."
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In fact, Tony hypothesized that the only reason Reed is fractionally smarter than himself is because Reed's powers allow him to 'cheat' and make his brain(and intellect) physically larger as it suits him: (please log in to view the image)
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Yup, and check back with me when Tony rebuilds the multiverse with his brain
Pretty sure it's hard to beat that as far as building and multitasking feats go. I think Tony's been getting wanked a little too far in narration due to his film popularity.
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Oh yeah. Not doubting that Reed is a bit smarter than Tony where singular tasks are concerned, but even Reed said that Tony is a better/smarter multitasker... Which means that a few DC intellects would likely be > Reed in that regard as well.
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Alexander Luthor Jr. brought back the Multiverse in Infinite Crisis. Not only did he bring it back, but he simultaneously manipulated DC's Multiverse. Where would you rank Alex?
Oh and of course I'd put Doom above the likes of Luthor and Co. He can scheme with the best of them and he's a scientific genius, with a magical kicker.
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