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Miffed When bias can lead to good arguments.

Just got to thinking. While debating the most boneheaded mother****er ever on Comic Vine (kbroskywalker) I realised something interesting; the fact this guy was simultaneously so bad at debating and so inevitably fixed into one way of thinking, it forced him to constantly make his arguments and attack his opponents from new angles. The sheer plethora of methods he can come up with to carry on an obviously failing battle on his part is at least impressive but probably some kind of legendary feat. So, perhaps logic dictates that the longer he tries, the more likely he is to stumble upon a better argument?

If you're impartial (lol), and don't feel particularly passionate about reaching a certain conclusion (elevating particular characters, establishing certain rules for everyone else to follow in debates), chances are you won't rack your brains thinking of new ways to prove your point. You might do the only sane thing and move on (which soon I'm going to do, but for now you all still have me hooked).

So am I onto something or is this more resident shrink ILS bullshit? I know my prime directive since day 1 has been give Maul the best goddamn case you can while making as few logical blunders as possible, among others, and I'd be lying if I said I hadn't cycled out a few shit arguments in favour of better ones along the way. But what about others, or yourself?


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Old news, for those with a brain.


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Time and effort can lead to the development of new, good arguments for characters that can instigate interesting discussions. It can also lead to the development of new, completely retarded arguments for characters that are headache-inducing. Case in point for both, Ant.

I don't think a lack of passion necessarily means a lack of consideration, though.


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I don't think a lack of passion necessarily means a lack of consideration, though.
Not necessarily, true.

It seems to be a little more useful though.


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I'd argue Ellimist is a perfect example of a user who can form excellent arguments for topics/characters he has no interest in.


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I'd argue Ellimist is a perfect example of a user who can form excellent arguments for topics/characters he has no interest in.
I'd counter that he's living proof of this:

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If you're impartial (lol), and don't feel particularly passionate about reaching a certain conclusion (elevating particular characters, establishing certain rules for everyone else to follow in debates), chances are you won't rack your brains thinking of new ways to prove your point. You might do the only sane thing and move on (which soon I'm going to do, but for now you all still have me hooked).
Though yeah, he did seem not particularly invested and did make good arguments.


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Ellimist hasn't moved on, persay, (In the sense that he's gotten bored/given up). He'll be back soon once life stops being filled with so much work and what not.


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Yeah, the anti-Bane sentiment was the fire that forged me into the monster I am today.


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Ellimist hasn't moved on, persay, (In the sense that he's gotten bored/given up). He'll be back soon once life stops being filled with so much work and what not.
But this is work.
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Yeah, the anti-Bane sentiment was the fire that forged me into the monster I am today.
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But this is work.


And you're a ****


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Yeah, it's all trial and error - evolution, sort to speak.


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Ils you're still a pretender Maul fan and a coward tbh.


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Ils you're still a pretender Maul fan and a coward tbh.
Okay, son.


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Okay, son.
Well why don't you prove me wrong. If you really believe in yourself you wouldn't shy away from testing your skills.


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Well why don't you prove me wrong. If you really believe in yourself you wouldn't shy away from testing your skills.
You're right. I didn't just spend an unhealthy amount of time today debating on two separate forums. I must try harder. I must reach 100,000 posts like you.

Show me, master.


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I totally forgot how ridiculous Quanchi's post count was. Are these hordes of posts just buried in some ancient crypt in the VF, or do you just post a ton in other forums and I don't notice?


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You're right. I didn't just spend an unhealthy amount of time today debating on two separate forums. I must try harder. I must reach 100,000 posts like you.

Show me, master.
It isn't just about the quantity it is also about the quality. It just so happens I have both in spades. I am the Aaron Rodgers of debating. No weaknesses.

Step up to the plate.

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laughing out loud both in fcking spades


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I totally forgot how ridiculous Quanchi's post count was. Are these hordes of posts just buried in some ancient crypt in the VF, or do you just post a ton in other forums and I don't notice?
The comic versus forum back in the day was so heated and so busy. 22,000 posts in 11 months. ive went up against everyone at one point. I am the stuff of legend.


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