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quanchi112
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laughing out loud both in fcking spades
Lets be about business here. Are you very familiar with the Star Wars original trilogy ?


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Lets be about business here. Are you very familiar with the Star Wars original trilogy ?
I dabble in such things, yes.


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I dabble in such things, yes.
Ok since you are familiar with the Ot ID say it's fair for you to represent the first three films against the Kelvin timeline trilogy from Star Trek. This will be a massive galactic war under our commands. We can see who is the superior debater and you can have Palpatine's shitty army at your command. What do you say ?


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Nova saying Traya is Vader tier because she killed Fodder Sith

Nova saying Meetra=Kenobi because she can beat Traya who dodged saber strikes and Darth Sion


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How does this stuff even spark an interesting conversation though? Let's face it. The forums are 40% drama, 40% trolling, 19% pissing contests and 1% meaningful discussion and debate. The the only person that I've debated that has ever sparked any meaningful and interesting conversation. Is Joker.

The thing about these forums is most of the times, they're too stubborn and afraid of the idea of being proved wrong. The forums praise someone for essentially doing the text equivalent of a child covering their ears and yelling "lalalallalala."This isn't some Harvard or Yale level debating tactic, this is a child's temper tantrum. The fact is this supposed tactic kills any intellectual thought and discussion. Because facts aren't being presented truthfully at times, sometimes they're manipulated and ripped from context, thus tricking the "jury." and in the rare occasions of LadyKulvax, they're knowingly or unknowingly forging documents that would help them win a case. Instead of a contest of facts, wits and the mind. What it devolves too is not a discussion where both parties want to leave with a new level of respect or admiration for both the character/subject they are debating, but rather it comes down to an obsession with beating and "destroying" them. No facts, just they're personal opinion and that, with all due respect ILS, doesn't cause a riveting discussion, it forces a debate and discussion to come to a grinding halt.

Just how I look at it anyway.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Old news, for those with a brain.
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Yeah. Finding ways to wank certain feats for characters I like has allowed me to use those arguments that generally apply to all characters to improve my ability to debate any character or specifically characters that share similar feats.


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ILS' post falls apart when you look at people like Syndicate, Erkan and the likes. They don't adapt; they repeat their arguments and maybe add something new, but it generally stays the same. And they'll never concede. You can only wait them out.


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Arguments don't need to be changed if they fail to be countered.


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But if they are countered and you just regurgitate them and say: "Herr, I win, you loose!" then they do need a change.


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There are only ever two things I can agree with Myth. That Shaak is good, and that Syn is a f-uckinging retarded pelican fearing c-unt smile


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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yeah. Finding ways to wank certain feats for characters I like has allowed me to use those arguments that generally apply to all characters to improve my ability to debate any character or specifically characters that share similar feats.
No, you don't count. sad


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Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok since you are familiar with the Ot ID say it's fair for you to represent the first three films against the Kelvin timeline trilogy from Star Trek. This will be a massive galactic war under our commands. We can see who is the superior debater and you can have Palpatine's shitty army at your command. What do you say ?
Well since no one else will I'll give it a shot before I get out of here. I wanna get my shit together in other places so we'll do this sometime mid-February. Link me to this Kelvin trilogy on wikipedia.


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Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
How does this stuff even spark an interesting conversation though? Let's face it. The forums are 40% drama, 40% trolling, 19% pissing contests and 1% meaningful discussion and debate. The the only person that I've debated that has ever sparked any meaningful and interesting conversation. Is Joker.

The thing about these forums is most of the times, they're too stubborn and afraid of the idea of being proved wrong. The forums praise someone for essentially doing the text equivalent of a child covering their ears and yelling "lalalallalala."This isn't some Harvard or Yale level debating tactic, this is a child's temper tantrum. The fact is this supposed tactic kills any intellectual thought and discussion. Because facts aren't being presented truthfully at times, sometimes they're manipulated and ripped from context, thus tricking the "jury." and in the rare occasions of LadyKulvax, they're knowingly or unknowingly forging documents that would help them win a case. Instead of a contest of facts, wits and the mind. What it devolves too is not a discussion where both parties want to leave with a new level of respect or admiration for both the character/subject they are debating, but rather it comes down to an obsession with beating and "destroying" them. No facts, just they're personal opinion and that, with all due respect ILS, doesn't cause a riveting discussion, it forces a debate and discussion to come to a grinding halt.

Just how I look at it anyway.


This.


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You're not wrong in some cases, but 1% is kind of a huge generalisation. That said, with the way things are looking, it may not be long before we truly descend into darkness.


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There are only ever two things I can agree with Myth. That Shaak is good, and that Syn is a f-uckinging retarded pelican fearing c-unt smile


Wut about Kenobi being uber powerful? smile


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As long as you are in denial about the powergap between Kenobi and Dooku it's only a partial agreement


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You mean Dooku ragdolling him? Yes, we can agree on that. smile


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you are in denial


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