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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Justice League #13.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0X06zg1p...s1600/12_05.jpg

Meanwhile, Batman is fighting WW:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-325Ka0Zu...1600/33_003.jpg

And outrunning HV from Supes:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4YE61fVj...1600/33_009.jpg

So yeah, if fights are all that matter...Batman can take beatings from a bloodlusted God of War WW, and outrun HV after it has been fired from a bloodlusted Supes.

Flash, meanwhile, dismantled 10,000 WMDs across the world:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TB0OT5Z0...s1600/22_01.jpg

Assuming DC Earth is the same as IRL:
http://thebulletin.org/nuclear-notebook-multimedia

I'm pretty sure that requires solidly FTL speeds. It's not just going to all the WMDs, but doing a lot of precision work on each

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This. I'm not going to get into a debate on who's strength fts surpass who when it comes to Hulk and Superman. Orion doesn't have the fts though which is what this thread is about. He doesn't even have to be used. The question is about the overall population.

My take is if A is just as strong as B (or close peers) by direct confrontation then A is as least as strong as average B (not high end B).

So since Orion does not have the top strength feats as Superman, he is at least as strong as an average Superman (or close to average Superman in strength).

What's average Superman's strength?
That's the question.

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My take is if A is just as strong as B (or close peers) by direct confrontation then A is as least as strong as average B (not high end B).

So since Orion does not have the top strength feats as Superman, he is at least as strong as an average Superman (or close to average Superman in strength).

What's average Superman's strength?
That's the question.

What strength fts does Orion have?

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More than the Living Tribunal.

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Fts matter when you are buying shoes.

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More than the Living Tribunal.

Colossus could've lifted this and broke out of this...

http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Ga.../fs123.jpg.html
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Ga.../fs124.jpg.html

There's also that tank showing. This is why I am asking you for strength showings.

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Colossus could've lifted this and broke out of this...

http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Ga.../fs123.jpg.html
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Ga.../fs124.jpg.html

There's also that tank showing. This is why I am asking you for strength showings.

But the Living Tribunal has even worse lifting feats, no?

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*Carver searching for 'Living Tribunal respect thread' on Google *

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... you really think he's aware of google.com? sad

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When does Google,com get searched?

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But the Living Tribunal has even worse lifting feats, no?

Are you sure? He lifts Earth here...

https://m.imgur.com/mC93SHA

With ease.

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Oh, that's n52 Superman level. Superman for abstract tier I guess....

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But let's stay on topic...

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Orion can do the same. Orion is Living Tribunal tier.

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What strength fts does Orion have?

You didn't understand a word I said.

If a character lacks strength feats then we go off direct fights with characters of known strength. The character who lacks the feats, if shown to be near equal in strength in their fight, can be assumed to be near the AVERAGE strength of the other character.

That means Orion is nowhere as strong as Superman when Superman is at his best (because he lacks Clark's feats). But Orion does operate with roughly Superman's average strength due to their fights. Unless Orion has multiple showings of him struggling with forces far below what average Superman can handle.

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Colossus could've lifted this and broke out of this...

http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Ga.../fs123.jpg.html
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Ga.../fs124.jpg.html

There's also that tank showing. This is why I am asking you for strength showings.

Prove that Colossus could've lift it?

Prove that Colossus could have broken out too?
If a character can lift X tons then they can only apply a small portion of their lifting force when they have little to no leverage.

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