ghostman
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JBL
Has BM been around as long as superman? Feats don't give you a automatic win because a character has been around for 200 years and the other has 1 year. That's an excuse to say your favorite character wins. Knowing all along he's Been around forever and Has far more feats. Cop out at its best.
so whats your reasoning for for blue marvel winning? since feats are out.
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Jan 30th, 2017 03:03 AM
Juntai
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JBL
Has BM been around as long as superman? Feats don't give you a automatic win because a character has been around for 200 years and the other has 1 year. That's an excuse to say your favorite character wins. Knowing all along he's Been around forever and Has far more feats. Cop out at its best.
This argument is getting old for Blue Marvel.
Blue Marvel has been around almost twice as long as New52 Superman, and about 1/3 of the time of Pre-52 Superman.
He's been going over 8 years.
You can pick any 8 years of Superman and cut out everything else as if it didn't exist, and he still wins.
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Jan 30th, 2017 04:00 AM
Stoic
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Juntai
This argument is getting old for Blue Marvel.
Blue Marvel has been around almost twice as long as New52 Superman, and about 1/3 of the time of Pre-52 Superman.
He's been going over 8 years.
You can pick any 8 years of Superman and cut out everything else as if it didn't exist, and he still wins.
Not really fair. Superman has his own book you can't pretend as if he didn't get more spotlight due to solo adventures, and as the OP stated, this is actually Pre-Flashpoint Superman who had as many showings if not more than Thor. You really can't place many characters against Superman in a feat war, especially not a character as new as Blue Marvel. This isn't really a point that anyone should have to argue over. 8 years vs nearly 40? Come on now. And, it really hasn't been 8 years due to the Blue marvel having nothing new written about him until more recently in the Ultimates 2 books.
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Jan 30th, 2017 04:48 AM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JBL
He will always win in your mind, no surprise there . BM wins by the way.
No, but I'd like to see you prove it. I can however prove you going into Superman threads that have nothing to do with Marvel characters just so you can complain. You can tell yourself Blue Marvel wins, but he doesn't.
How about you tell me what actual examples makes you think Blue Marvel wins?
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Jan 30th, 2017 10:57 AM
DarkSaint85
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Not really fair. Superman has his own book you can't pretend as if he didn't get more spotlight due to solo adventures, and as the OP stated, this is actually Pre-Flashpoint Superman who had as many showings if not more than Thor. You really can't place many characters against Superman in a feat war, especially not a character as new as Blue Marvel. This isn't really a point that anyone should have to argue over. 8 years vs nearly 40? Come on now. And, it really hasn't been 8 years due to the Blue marvel having nothing new written about him until more recently in the Ultimates 2 books.
Yes, but what people aren't getting, is if EVERY one of those 10,000 showings are high showings,his average is high.
Does Superman have loads of feats? Course. But for the argument to hold weight, surely he would job a lot, and have loads of low showings too.
If he doesn't have an equal number of low showings, then his average is high.
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Jan 30th, 2017 11:21 AM
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I don't think people realize how a Superman 'with only his highest showings' would look on the forum.
What you see regularly argued (by most of the posters) is his average. It's just that he has the best average in comics.
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Jan 30th, 2017 11:29 AM
Galan007
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The hatred that would ensue if people *only* used Superman's high-end showings, would make Palpatine himself blush.
Tell me: what tier would one be placed in if he were capable of trouncing Skyfather-level characters(and beyond) as though they were weak feebs?
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Jan 30th, 2017 04:50 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ghostman
so whats your reasoning for for blue marvel winning? since feats are out.
Blue Marvel took on a guy that wrecked the Avengers and held his own. He knocked out Hyperion, took out a portion of Shuma in a single hit. His averages are better and current Pre Superman sucks.
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Jan 30th, 2017 05:20 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think people realize how a Superman 'with only his highest showings' would look on the forum.
What you see regularly argued (by most of the posters) is his average. It's just that he has the best average in comics.
Maybe I should give it a go sometimes.
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Jan 30th, 2017 06:25 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Blue Marvel took on a guy that wrecked the Avengers and held his own. He knocked out Hyperion, took out a portion of Shuma in a single hit. His averages are better and current Pre Superman sucks.
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Jan 30th, 2017 06:26 PM
ghostman
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Blue Marvel took on a guy that wrecked the Avengers and held his own. He knocked out Hyperion, took out a portion of Shuma in a single hit. His averages are better and current Pre Superman sucks.
seriously? i dont think so son
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Jan 30th, 2017 11:57 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ghostman
seriously? i dont think so son
You don't think what?
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Jan 31st, 2017 04:03 AM
ghostman
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
You don't think what?
that blue marvel wins because of those little feats. your bias is blatant.
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Jan 31st, 2017 04:06 AM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JBL
Did buster Douglas have as many feats as Tyson? No. So since Tyson had more and better feats than Douglas, you would think Tyson would win right? Guess what? When he fought Douglas he lost. You think just because superman has more feats he win? LMAO.
Your analogy would only work if they fought and Blue Marvel won, and the analogy was in response to people arguing against Blue Marvel's win. When it comes down to it, you want Blue Marvel to win(or perhaps just for Superman to lose), but you can't make an argument, so you make an irrelevant analogy.
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Jan 31st, 2017 05:05 AM
JBL
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Delta1938
Your analogy would only work if they fought and Blue Marvel won, and the analogy was in response to people arguing against Blue Marvel's win. When it comes down to it, you want Blue Marvel to win(or perhaps just for Superman to lose), but you can't make an argument, so you make an irrelevant analogy.
False. You just don't want superman to lose. Check your track record.
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Jan 31st, 2017 06:52 AM
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Try to keep the discussion on topic. Making personal comments eventually gets people banned.
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Jan 31st, 2017 06:53 AM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JBL
False. You just don't want superman to lose. Check your track record.
Then why is your argument a flawed analogy? And circular argument.
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Jan 31st, 2017 06:56 AM
DarkSaint85
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Batman does well in fights against heralds.
Deathstroke, Cap, Squirrel Girl.
If feats don't matter, only fights, then these four solo the herald tier, lol.
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Jan 31st, 2017 11:31 AM
Delta1938
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Bump.
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Feb 7th, 2017 10:26 PM
StyleTime
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman does well in fights against heralds.
Deathstroke, Cap, Squirrel Girl .
If feats don't matter, only fights, then these four solo the herald tier, lol.
To be fair, Doreen probably could.
Feb 7th, 2017 11:28 PM
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