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golem370
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For the Marvel heralds how would the flashes know when and where to effect them?


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For the Marvel heralds how would the flashes know when and where to effect them?


He studies them. He's a time manipulator - he has alll the time in the world. Here, he studies Barry Allen's entire life history, before deciding exactly when and where to strike:
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Neutral setting means everything is present in a weird mishmash universe (my reading of it).


And even if they are from different universes, he can do it:
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Well yeah... And there's also stuff like this:

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In short: each of the Flashes can calculate infinite scenarios, nigh-instantly.


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in spite of all the times those types of scans are shown, people STILL don't get how powerful these flashes are. they are ridiculous when just their high end (and even just regular end) stuff is examined.


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in spite of all the times those types of scans are shown, people STILL don't get how powerful these flashes are. they are ridiculous when just their high end (and even just regular end) stuff is examined.


Quoted for truth. Outside PIS/CIS, there are not many characters in their tier that can defeat a primary Flash and/or Zoom. There are many characters that can defeat a primary Flash/Zoom, just not in their tier.


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah. So he can make it back!

I put him the same category as Nughtcrawler, who BMAFs into another dimension and comes back.


I should have bolded the specific part.

But top line, if they leave on purpose, they forfeit. If they're forced off the field, THEN they get to come back.


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Leaving the field
Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match.
If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.


There we go.

So Zoom's time traveling becomes an instant forfeit, as that would be leaving the battlefield on purpose.


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So Nightcrawler forfeits every match he's in?

But look at the last part of the quote. Obviously, if they leave and CANNOT RETURN UNDER THEIR OWN POWER.


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He studies them. He's a time manipulator - he has alll the time in the world. Here, he studies Barry Allen's entire life history, before deciding exactly when and where to strike:
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Neutral setting means everything is present in a weird mishmash universe (my reading of it).


And even if they are from different universes, he can do it:
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Those are scan are DC characters but the Marvel heralds are from a different reality so in less Zoom can reality jump those herald should be immune to Zoom time attacks.


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The realities' are shared, dude. Otherwise you might as well argue there's no speed force in marvel, so etc etc etc.


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Realites are shared who said that it usually in DC or in Marvel or Neutral battle fields.


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So Nightcrawler forfeits every match he's in?

But look at the last part of the quote. Obviously, if they leave and CANNOT RETURN UNDER THEIR OWN POWER.


Sure, but in context with the first part, we can assume it means "involuntary".

And Nightcrawler is a good point.

Anyways, the mods can make a ruling if they want. I'm just throwing it out there like I did my query about it earlier. smile


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Realites are shared who said that it usually in DC or in Marvel or Neutral battle fields.


Yah, neutral. So everything all mushed together.i assuming that since we're now nitpicking rules, that the HH tied Ave no answer to the Flashes at full capacity?


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Neutral I thought not using either side we need the op to make a decision on it.


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Then.....does the Speed force (which only exists in DC) exist in this neutral universe?

Power Cosmic? Only Marvel has it. Does this neutral universe have it too?

Zoom's MO is messing with timelines. Phucking people up with his timeline based powers. Take that away, just to give one side a chance....apeaks volumes.

Edit: OPsaid Team Flash are using their abilities to the fullest.


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Originally posted by Badabing
Concerning the Battlefield
All characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. This means that, for example, Flash will in fact have SpeedForce abilities if the battle took place in Marvel Manhattan. Battles will always take place on an assumed equal playing field.

Link to the forum rules: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html



Golem, you have been a member here for nearly 12 years, and have made the second most amount of threads on this entire site:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...&perpage=25

How can you possibly not know one of the most basic forum rules?


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Well I want clarity on how Zoom could effect people whos timeline is in a different reality and since there is no info on battle ground I am even more confused.


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Golem, you have been a member here for nearly 12 years, and have made the second most amount of threads on this entire site:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...&perpage=25

How can you possibly not know one of the most basic forum rules?


Basically I just didn't know.


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No worries. Hopefully that's ironed-out now. thumb up


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Golem, you have been a member here for nearly 12 years, and have made the second most amount of threads on this entire site:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...&perpage=25

How can you possibly not know one of the most basic forum rules?
Goddamn, I didn't realize Zack has that many threads.


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