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The author of the book and the director of the movie said that he WAS killing people, but people in the American Psycho universe are all so shallow and self absorbed that they didn't notice/care what Bateman was doing.


I can understand the reasoning why nobody cared, but why did Bateman himself seem to be hallucinating whether he did it or not?


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Okay so I want to mention Da Vinci Code, I understood the movie overall..but there is one scene I don't understand.

You have the part where they are on the plane and they land and the old guy has to sneak the main characters out into his car without the authorities seeing them. So they do this and they then begin driving to their destination in London.

After this we have another scene of the main villain the "teacher" talking to that Bishop on the phone about their plan. This is what puzzles me, because as people know..the old guy turns out to be this "teacher". However, this would have meant he made that phone call to the bishop with EVERYONE in the car. It was a small car, there is no way they wouldn't have heard the conversation, and this scene took place before they even arrived at their destination.

So is this just some kind of error on the part of the crew or was there another person(besides his butler) that was working with him pretending to be the "teacher" ?


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I did understand Mulholland Drive, though. It's been many years since I've seen it, but what I remember thinking is that it's conceptual in that you are living this depressed girl's hopes and dreams moving to Hollywood to make it big, but then get jolted to reality and she has killed herself. It's a pretty epically depressing movie... feel good film of the year.


So what the heck was the purpose of that monstrous looking homeless guy you see in an alley or something at one point?


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I'm a little hazy on some of the details in The Da Vinci Code, too...

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So what the heck was the purpose of that monstrous looking homeless guy you see in an alley or something at one point?


It's been so long since I've seen it, but Lynch likes to use symbolic imagery, so it may not be meant to have a literal meaning.

And speaking of Lynch...

Indland Empire (2006)

No idea how to make sense of that movie.


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You're not supposed to.

To me the hardest to understand were Transformers 2, 3 and 4. And prolly 5.


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So what the heck was the purpose of that monstrous looking homeless guy you see in an alley or something at one point?


To signify that nightmares can also be reality or something. Honestly, Lynch just does stuff and he only knows why. Red drapes, midgets, what have you.


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So what the heck was the purpose of that monstrous looking homeless guy you see in an alley or something at one point?


That was a woman.


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Birdman with Michael Keaton.

I didn't have trouble understanding but after reading what the director had to say, I totally misunderstood the ending.

For me, it was a feel good ending that left me smiling.
Riggan jumps out the hospital window. His daughter briefly looks down expecting to see her father dead on the pavement then glances up in the sky & smiles, tears of joy.

Her father isn't crazy after all, he's a real superhero that can fly!
The End.

In actual fact, when the daughter looks down, she actually does see her father dead on the pavement & in that brief moment, she loses her mind.

And when she gazes upward to the sky & smiles, she has finally lost her grip of reality & becomes delusional just like her dad.

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Birdman with Michael Keaton.

I didn't have trouble understanding but after reading what the director had to say, I totally misunderstood the ending.

For me, it was a feel good ending that left me smiling.
Riggan jumps out the hospital window. His daughter briefly looks down expecting to see her father dead on the pavement then glances up in the sky & smiles, tears of joy.

Her father isn't crazy after all, he's a real superhero that can fly!
The End.

In actual fact, when the daughter looks down, she actually does see her father dead on the pavement & in that brief moment, she loses her mind.

And when she gazes upward to the sky & smiles, she has finally lost her grip of reality & becomes delusional just like her dad.

Interesting, though I don't understand how one would pick that up just from that brief closing scene.

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No Country For Old Men.

It wasn't so much as not understanding but I totally missed that minor scene where the husband is randomly killed. It was shown as a news footage of dead bodies in a hotel room & you're apparently supposed to recognise the husband by the boots he was wearing...such a minor detail considering the other dead men were wearing boots too.

Anyway I totally expected the husband to finally turn up at the end of the movie to save his wife & when he didn't, I had to rewind the film to figure out he was actually randomly killed (for no apparent reason to the plot) halfway through.


This is actually what happened in the book, though it played out a bit differently. Having seen this, The Road, and The Counselor, it just seems that McCarthy's films do a poor job of tying up the story. Even the close of the film didn't do justice to the message of the book. It was just very off, but it's not surprising that anyone who hadn't read the book would be lost, it wasn't handled very well.

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I can understand the reasoning why nobody cared, but why did Bateman himself seem to be hallucinating whether he did it or not?


Because he's crazy. All of the stuff where he's seeing ATM's telling him to feed it stray cats, and possibly when he caused that explosion were all in his head.

Actually, the book had some other trippy scenes in it too where he's watching TV watching Bigfoot and a talking Cheerio being interviewed, and a park bench following him home. But the murders DID happen.


Or maybe they didn't. I don't think that you always need to follow what Word of God tells you to think. Fans can make up their own minds.

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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Birdman with Michael Keaton.

I didn't have trouble understanding but after reading what the director had to say, I totally misunderstood the ending.

For me, it was a feel good ending that left me smiling.
Riggan jumps out the hospital window. His daughter briefly looks down expecting to see her father dead on the pavement then glances up in the sky & smiles, tears of joy.

Her father isn't crazy after all, he's a real superhero that can fly!
The End.

In actual fact, when the daughter looks down, she actually does see her father dead on the pavement & in that brief moment, she loses her mind.

And when she gazes upward to the sky & smiles, she has finally lost her grip of reality & becomes delusional just like her dad.


That's how I took the ending.

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Interstellar had me confused for awhile afterwards

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I have never understood anything David Lynch did - nor do I care enough to try. I once accidentally watched a movie of his because I heard Trent Reznor did the soundtrack, then fell asleep in the middle. When I woke up, I seriously thought I was watching another movie. Still have no idea what that movie was about. Still don't care.

If you really must know, the movie was Lost Highway.


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2001 Space Odyssey

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I have never understood anything David Lynch did - nor do I care enough to try. I once accidentally watched a movie of his because I heard Trent Reznor did the soundtrack, then fell asleep in the middle. When I woke up, I seriously thought I was watching another movie. Still have no idea what that movie was about. Still don't care.

If you really must know, the movie was Lost Highway.
Try watching Blue Velvet. Also Twin Peaks is fantastic

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Try watching Blue Velvet. Also Twin Peaks is fantastic


I know that lots of people think David Lynch is fantastic and I am happy for you and them, but I made peace a long time ago with the fact that I'm just not part of the audience that will ever enjoy his work. I'm the same about Wes Anderson and Jared Hess - people rave about their movies while I just get bored. I don't think they are funny and I've stopped trying to understand or care why people like their movies.

It doesn't mean I think they are bad directors - I just definitely am not now nor ever will be a fan of theirs.


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Fair enough. Lynch isn't for everyone

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I know that lots of people think David Lynch is fantastic and I am happy for you and them, but I made peace a long time ago with the fact that I'm just not part of the audience that will ever enjoy his work. I'm the same about Wes Anderson and Jared Hess - people rave about their movies while I just get bored. I don't think they are funny and I've stopped trying to understand or care why people like their movies.

It doesn't mean I think they are bad directors - I just definitely am not now nor ever will be a fan of theirs.


Yeah, Blue Velvet is a pretty good movie, even for non-Lynch fans.

I feel the same way about Wes Anderson for the most part. His movies just don't interest me. Life Aquatic wasn't that funny to me, and Grand Budapest Hotel was well films and somewhat amusing, but just not my cup of tea.


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Life Aquatic wasn't that funny to me, and Grand Budapest Hotel was well films and somewhat amusing, but just not my cup of tea.


I enjoy his movies but you really gotta be in the mood for them.

Kinda like you want to be amused by melancholy nostalgia...

I also find his imagination for set design pieces amazing.
The life size model of the submarine in Life Aquatic where it's dissected in half so you can see what everybody is doing in their separate compartments was a visual delight.

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Didnt wanna start a new thread, and this kinda fits what i'm asking, so:

AGE OF ADALINE
what gave her her 'Sherlock Scan' (able to notice minute details and make spot in deductions)?
I discussed this in RL once, and, didnt buy my friend's theory that it was because she had an extended lifespan.

My point was, she DIDNT have an extended lifespan, not really.
She stopped aging at 29 for 78 years, so she was just past 100.
Al Roker celebrates ppl in that age range all the time.

Was it because she was young that whole time? Still doesnt seem right.

Any theories or actual canon reasons why i havent come across?


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