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Darth Jadus vs Karness Muur [Force only]
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darthbane77
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Between prime Vader and Plagueis,that was a typo, my bad.
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Will be back on later to respond, I have shit I need to do right now.
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Ursumeles
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Based on Drew's opinion Bane ~ Vader ~ Revan, lmao. And we know that Plaggy >>> Bane.
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Being second only to Vitiate and above every other member of the DC (some of whom I have approaching Vader level, as previously said) the ability to hold his ship together in space is something above most anything Vader has achieved.

Based on what?
How do they approach Vader level?
Vader did:
-collapsed a Cathedral, while injured, 19BBY, as he was far weaker than his later incernations.
-dominated Starkiller/shared parity with him, before "becoming a far more formidable foe.
etc.

He didn't hold the whole ship together.


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Originally posted by Ursumeles
Based on Drew's opinion Bane ~ Vader ~ Revan, lmao. And we know that Plaggy >>> Bane.

Based on what?
How do they approach Vader level?
Vader did:
-collapsed a Cathedral, while injured, 19BBY, as he was far weaker than his later incernations.
-dominated Starkiller/shared parity with him, before "becoming a far more formidable foe.
etc.

He didn't hold the whole ship together.
Will respond later.
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MythLord
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Originally posted by darthbane77
The Marr codex can obviously be interpreted in different ways, which means no one interpretation is correct.


Right, so you can't play it off as fact that Marr > Nox.

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Originally posted by darthbane77
This quote could potentially contradict Plagueis' non-canon blurb.

"Revan travels to a very iconic Yavin IV to go to battle and release the actual Emperor, one we thought who was defeated not long ago. The player is pulled into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor."

―Michael Backus (Star Wars: The Old Republic Head Writer)

Vitiate is stated as the most powerful character in the Old Republic, alongside Revan. The quote then says they're potentially the most powerful characters even beyond the TOR era. The only Sith Lord who's accolades might actually contradict this, are Sidious'.


He says "two of", not "the two". Regardless, author quotes aren't canon unless their statements are implemented into the story. This has been noted several times by Drew, Luceno and Stover.

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You discount Mortis' opinion and then use Valkorion's as evidence? You can't discount one opinion and then use another one for your argument, that shit is hypocritical.


I wasn't doing that, you cretin, I was making a point. If you wanna take Valkorion saying that Jadus is > Marr, then you have to accept that he also said the protagonist is > Jadus so Marr can't be > Nox who is ~ Malgus, according to you. I'm noting how flawed your argument is by shoving the same example down your throat.


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Who cares what Valkorion said? He was non-stop lying lmao. He just wanted a new body for himself on the Eternal Throne.


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MythLord
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Exactly my point; so him saying Jadus > Marr or Protag > everyone else clearly isn't valid.


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Lol, why the hell would Valk lie about that? It gets him nothing and it really specifically and perfectly fits in with the hype that the game had previously given Jadus. The devs were obviously reinforcing Jadus' hype with that line, its completely specific.


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Backing out of the argument for a while, more important matters are pressing me right now. May or may not get back to it.
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It's listed on wookiepedia as the definition for c-canon. Considering everything on wookiepedia is verified, I assume it to be true, and Syndi used it as a source, which makes it good enough for me.
So retarded on so many levels. laughing out loud


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thumb up tbh


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This is 2017 for Christ's sake how are people using Wookieepedia over Leland Chee.


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And just to remind everyone of what's actually the case:
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"Lucasfilm canon" refers to anything produced by any of the Lucas companies, whether it be movies, books, games, or internet. "Movie canon" is only that which you see and hear in the Star Wars films.

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Case closed. thumb up


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thumb up
Chee and blurbs are canon.
Author statements and Wookiepedia aren't.


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Bump


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MythLord
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Karness, obviously.


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This is the back cover of latest print of Darth Plagueis novel:

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Source: https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Da...s/dp/0345511298

Looks like they abandoned the earlier hype for another, which is still a hype.

The hype is about the midichlorian manipulation skill of Darth Plagueis.

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SunRazer
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That's not a retcon. But it's good to have more confirmation that Plagueis' power over life and death was unprecedented.
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That's not a retcon. But it's good to have more confirmation that Plagueis' power over life and death was unprecedented.

That is a retcon.
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Further proof Plagueis possesses "ultimate power". :3


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