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nwg202
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Magik fairly recently beat Dormammu 2x and the World eater.

She lights up iceman w/ hellfire just for kicks. (Iceman normally doesn't get hurt w/ fire based attacks)
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One-shots Crystal, Gorgon and Reader
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Easily blocks Torchs blast w/ sword without even looking
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One-shots amped Amped Colossus w/ apoc tech who was wrecking the x-men (iceman, storm,Jean, etc..)
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Uses demons to delay M and rip up brood
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Takes out It the living Colossus and other Monster Isle monsters
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Use AOE blast
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Takes out shield agents w/ demons w/o even being on the battle field
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Ports out a ton of X-men from huge explosion
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Takes out cosmic powered slaughter lord in orbit
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Takes out dead pool and cl100 molly who's thrashing Colossus
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Easily Evades Thor's AOE blast and Hammer. ( Thor says demon slaying is tiring and loses focus which could give Magik opening to wreck him behind)
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Cloaks from cosmic powered slaughter lords
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uses spell that causes Mercuy (someone who is supposed to be immune to magic) to blow up
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Going by feats and going by wins opponents Magik takes this.

Honestly one cloaking spell, one magical shield, a tele-blitz and the Soul Sword are all she needs to win this.

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If we go by everyones high end feats Magik solo stomps this whole field sans multiversal reality warper Wiccan. She has a ton of high end showings compared to everyone here.

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magik is definitely a beast against magical entities and the soulsword seems to be upgraded as well. I hadn't read inhumans vs x-men yet so idk how that bout with M ended.

I'm not saying she can't win. I'm just saying she's not stomping like you are suggesting. it took her a couple of panels to execute the spell on mercury and im not sure if it was spell that blew her up or caused a chemical reaction. in the time to spell that someone could have whammed her with something.

if you take spiderman's, psylocke's and captain Britain's high feats you have impressive sh1testomping stats too. Magik can do these things because she has a weapon uniquely geared towards handling those situations. the soulsword cuts magic end of story if anyone else had it then they could also execute those feats. as far as the demon summoning goes I didn't see any in the brood scan and in the one with at the shield facility only showed a couple rando agents (fodder) knocked out probably from fear but... we don't know. neither fight against deadpool nor molly is impressive. evading the thor's AOE not impressive with her teleportation which we all know about.


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magik is definitely a beast against magical entities and the soulsword seems to be upgraded as well. I hadn't read inhumans vs x-men yet so idk how that bout with M ended.

I'm not saying she can't win. I'm just saying she's not stomping like you are suggesting. it took her a couple of panels to execute the spell on mercury and im not sure if it was spell that blew her up or caused a chemical reaction. in the time to spell that someone could have whammed her with something.

if you take spiderman's, psylocke's and captain Britain's high feats you have impressive sh1testomping stats too. Magik can do these things because she has a weapon uniquely geared towards handling those situations. the soulsword cuts magic end of story if anyone else had it then they could also execute those feats. as far as the demon summoning goes I didn't see any in the brood scan and in the one with at the shield facility only showed a couple rando agents (fodder) knocked out probably from fear but... we don't know. neither fight against deadpool nor molly is impressive. evading the thor's AOE not impressive with her teleportation which we all know about.


Nope. Magik was tanking the word eaters attacks. The same world eater that destroys dimensions. Dormy also stated he tried to kill Magik with everything he had and he couldn't. The spell with mercury only required a gesture. Stop lowballing.

Magik at full power has Hell Lords commenting on how powerful she is. The soul sword not only affects magical creatures. It takes out beings as powerful Legion. All those feats i posted were ave feats. You can see the demon tentacles ripping apart the brood.

Who else in this battle can evade Thor's AOE attack? maybe Speed or the teleporters. The attack on the shield agents shows Magik's range. She can attack from a different galaxy and in inferno Limbo attacked through out multiple timelines.

Do you seriously want to go through the list of opponents everyone here has beaten? I guarantee you Magik wipes the floor w/ everyone.

Who has the most powerful rouges gallery here? Are you seriously comparing Spider-man to Magik?

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she can tank magik power too. she has been laid out in regular h2h as well.

what you should be trying to argue imo is her attacking power with her sword because she could do some damage shooting magik or whatever that discharge is.

im not lowballing the spell took three panels. somebody could literally port/run/fly in and sock her in that time frame. enough time for at least two speech bubble from magik herself.

what I am saying is if you take the highest feats of anybody here and they look pretty ridiculously strong especially if you ignore everything else.

I guess I should thank you no one else wanted really wanted to touch this thread except for to tell you that Magik isn't shitstomping this like you say and its almost 4 pages long.


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she can tank magik power too. she has been laid out in regular h2h as well.

what you should be trying to argue imo is her attacking power with her sword because she could do some damage shooting magik or whatever that discharge is.

im not lowballing the spell took three panels. somebody could literally port/run/fly in and sock her in that time frame. enough time for at least two speech bubble from magik herself.

what I am saying is if you take the highest feats of anybody here and they look pretty ridiculously strong especially if you ignore everything else.

I guess I should thank you no one else wanted really wanted to touch this thread except for to tell you that Magik isn't shitstomping this like you say and its almost 4 pages long.


I posted scans of the sword taking out non magical opponents w/ greater durability then most the people here. She's tanked and evaded Canonball's blitz.

Kitty pride used Magik's sword and couldn't put down this demon while Magik could. The demon says Kitty did not know how to wield the blade.

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No one here has as many high end feats here compared to Magik.

To put it simply, Magik can beat any opponent that the heroes listed here can beat but not everyone on this list can beat beings that Magik can beat.

With access to all their resources and feats, yes Magik is stomping everyone here outside of Wiccan.

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If we go by everyones high end feats Magik solo stomps this whole field sans multiversal reality warper Wiccan. She has a ton of high end showings compared to everyone here.

High end feats only? Psylocke puts everyone to sleep, barring a blitz. She wouldn't care about resistances.

Even CIS off, it'd just be a quick draw.

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Not really if we just go by hi end Magik has resisted telepaths with greater power like xavier rachel etc...betsy to my knowledge has never displayed and magic resistance vs powerful mages consistently. A magik going all out is the darkchylde one of the most powerful hell lords in marvel.

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Not really if we just go by hi end Magik has resisted telepaths with greater power like xavier rachel etc...betsy to my knowledge has never displayed and magic resistance vs powerful mages consistently. A magik going all out is the darkchylde one of the most powerful hell lords in marvel.


Resisting a mind-probe is not the same as resisting a telepathic attack.

And Rachel isnt a greater telepath than Betsy.


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And Fantomex has far more consistent immunity feats than Magik. His mask had a perfect record, until Psylocke decided she didn't care.

High end only Psylocke is an entirely different beast. No one here could resist her in any way.

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Resisting a mind-probe is not the same as resisting a telepathic attack.

And Rachel isnt a greater telepath than Betsy.


Xavier and the shadow king couldnt control Magik. The shadowking was able to control storm and the other new mutants who have strong showings in tp resistance.

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High end Magik could make limbo comsume the universe and start inferno all over again. The only reason why Inferno ended was because she stopped it. All of marvels superteams couldnt do anything about it.

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Xavier and the shadow king couldnt control Magik. The shadowking was able to control storm and the other new mutants who have strong showings in tp resistance.

They failed against Fantomex too. So did Phoenix. And the Cuckoo's. And Young Jean. Etc. Unlike Magik, no telepath ever succeeded against him.

Didn't stop Psylocke. She blazed right through a legit immunity. High end, she would put anyone here to sleep.

This battle isn't bloodlusted, or CIS off fortunately.

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Agree to disagree again.

There is no way Betsy is above Xavier or Phoenix.

Hell Lord with a ton of TP resistance feats > Psychic Ninja w/ no magic resistance.

She's actually brought part of Limbo into earth several times though. 2 or 3 but yeah she won't do it here.

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Doesnt matter.

That shit is irrelevant and no one could bring more firepower than the Britain Corps anyways.


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Agree to disagree again.

There is no way Betsy is above Xavier or Phoenix.

Hell Lord with a ton of TP resistance feats > Psychic Ninja w/ no magic resistance.

She's actually brought part of Limbo into earth several times though. 2 or 3 but yeah she won't do it here.

Well, this one isn't an agree to disagree. You said high end, which means she has feats surpassing them both, including one against a character with true immunity.

High end only, she'd bulldoze straight past Magik's resistance. On panel, high end Psylocke bypasses complete immunity(which Magik doesn't have to begin with).

Just don't see what's to debate with regards to high end. /shrug

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Yeah, Psylocke is the only one who has gotten into Fantomex's head.

Not the Cuckoos, Rachel, Jean, Xavier, Shadow King. A who's who of TP mutants.

And Fantomex casually resisted all of them. Casually.


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Well, this one isn't an agree to disagree. You said high end, which means she has feats surpassing them both, including one against a character with true immunity.

High end only, she'd bulldoze straight past Magik's resistance. On panel, high end Psylocke bypasses complete immunity(which Magik doesn't have to begin with).

Just don't see what's to debate with regards to high end. /shrug



I said no one has as many high end showings as Magik. Multiple high end showings. She has a track record of beating characters Betsy has no hope of beating.

Magik has beaten a multiple characters who are sky father and hell lord level characters. She's had her demon armies wipe out entire time lines. She's gone into Legion's head and wrecked his personalities. She has resisted several powerful Telepaths like Xavier multiple times. She's beaten characters like Strange, Demon Juggernaut, Legion, etc..

She's the x-men's designated team buster not Betsy.

Forcing Fantomex to take off his mask not as impressive as stomping on Dormammu w/o prep in a one on one battle. Why would Betsy also win in a quick draw? Magik also only has to think to get an attack off.

I can't believe people actually think Betsy can take Magik on in a forum setting. What's next Betsy can take on Thor, the Avengers and the Phoenix 5 since Xavier put them all to sleep at the same time?

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These outlandish scenarios are about as realistic as Brian or Betsy ducking into otherworld and sterilizing the battlefield with the universe-killer


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These outlandish scenarios are about as realistic as Brian or Betsy ducking into otherworld and sterilizing the battlefield with the universe-killer


Outside of bringing limbo to earth. What scenario is outlandish?

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