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SunRazer
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Canon Quotes On Midi-chlorian Manipulation?

Other than Palpatine's comments in RotS, of course.

Also, with the RotS novel being non-canon, and the RotS junior novel being dubiously canon, there's no outright canon source indicating that Palpatine saved Anakin with the Force, is there?

In that case, is it arguable that Anakin survived Mustafar on sheer merit of willpower (long enough for the medical teams to arrive, anyway)? Discuss.

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Darth Abonis
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Yes and a science documentary on Star Wars, said that it was possible a person in good physical shape could survive that

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Jaggarath
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No. It's just unknown. Unlike Legends, the new Canon has barely any material on it. Making claims one way or another on unknowns is just blindly reaching.


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SunRazer
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Sounds about right. We'll have to wait for a source to mention it.

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Re: Canon Quotes On Midi-chlorian Manipulation?

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Also, with the RotS novel being non-canon, and the RotS junior novel being dubiously canon


Say what?

Since when is the ROTS novel non-canon?

And on what basis does a "junior" novelization have different canonicity than a regular novelization?


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Both have been non-canon since late 2013.


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Darth Luminous
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DelReySt...579307341840384

"To clarify, movie novelizations are canon where they align with what is seen on screen in the 6 films and the Clone Wars animated movie."


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keyword here being "where they align".


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The novels are only canon in the sense that they follow what's in the films, which are canon. None of their original content or insights count for anything anymore.


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None of their original content or insights count for anything anymore.


Anything that aligns with the content of the films would be safe, so that would include the material addressed in the initial post. Palpatine using the Force on Anakin aligns with the film. The problem would be with things that are contradicted by what we see on screen. ( Which stands to reason anyway, and is the same idea that was at the heart of the old "canon hierarchy". )


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Nope, if it's not on-screen its not canon:

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Some just don't want to hear it. Canon is only what's on the screen - Episodes I-VI, TCW and what's to come.

--Pablo Hidalgo, Dec. 2013


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Well no one asked for Anakin to have a Padawan. Which I still feel like it doesn't make sense for his character.


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Not sure what that's suppose to mean Beni.

Although I'm not seeing why the OT novels would be considered such. I mean ya the ROTJ novel has Obi/Owen noted as brothers, but 1 line disregarding 3 whole novels seems a little bit out there.


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Nope, if it's not on-screen its not canon


The problem with that:

In 2014, the preexisting SW EU was declared non-canon. Kind of a meaningless gesture if it was non-canon to begin with.

Pre-Disney comments are outdated.

As indicated here and here everything released under the new regime is considered equally canon going forward. "Movies, Rebels, Clone Wars, and all content (books, games, etc) moving forward." Around the same time we get this which most definitely isn't about something shown on a screen.


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Not sure what point you're trying to make. The novelizations came out long before 2014, so they don't qualify as "content moving forward."

Also, while the official chainsaw of the SWEU was announced in early 2014, the Disney/Lucasarts deal was already cut in late 2013, and Pablo Hidalgo was/is involved with the process.


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Originally posted by Darth Luminous
The problem with that:

In 2014, the preexisting SW EU was declared non-canon. Kind of a meaningless gesture if it was non-canon to begin with.

Pre-Disney comments are outdated.

As indicated here and here everything released under the new regime is considered equally canon going forward. "Movies, Rebels, Clone Wars, and all content (books, games, etc) moving forward." Around the same time we get this which most definitely isn't about something shown on a screen.
Friend two points:

1. That first series of tweets is from 2016, and it's rather clear on the issue. The novelisations are only canon when they align or rather directly adapt what's on screen. This doesn't contradict what Del Rey have said at all.

2. That second Hidalgo tweet from 2013 is not pre-Disney, Disney took over in Dec. 2012, the Story Group was introduced in Oct. 2013 and that is point at which this new canon policy was formulated, despite the fact that the official "rollout" so to speak, came later.


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Although come to think of it, I don't even see why TPM/AOTC would be included in Hidalgo's tweet right there considering this would have been Anakin when he was a child/Padawan.

At best, this would just be the ROTS novel, not the other 2.


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NewGuy01
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That was an example, not the reason they're not canon.


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Who cares, fck Disney, Their reboot is #notmycanon

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