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Ursumeles
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Mace Windu's team vs Vitiate

The Team:
* Mace Windu
* Kit Fisto
* Qui-Gon Jinn
* R2D2


* Vitiate as of the Novel


Round one: Fight takes place on neutral ground
Round two: Fight takes place in the dark temple


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NoVitiate dies. Weakitiate dies. SWTOR Vitiate might win. Valkorion wins.

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R2 solos


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Yeah, it's novel Vitiate. He gets his head lopped off every time.

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Yeah, edited the version in.

Reasons tho?


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Mace solos round 1. Vitiate probably wins round 2, though.


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Fisto and Jinn are probably liabilities due to telepathy. R2 gets shattered just like T4.

All versions of Vitiate excluding his weakened variant can beat Windu imo. Especially with liabilities on the field.


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Qui-Gon seems to be the type of guy with immense willpower. Not to mention Mind Tricking Hutts is pretty good.

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Vitiate will smoke this Strike Team. Mace Windu alone cannot carry it to victory.

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Originally posted by SunRazer
Qui-Gon seems to be the type of guy with immense willpower. Not to mention Mind Tricking Hutts is pretty good.

Same was true for Revan and many others.

We are talking about one of the greatest telepaths here and Qui-Gon Jinn will be tested like never before.

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Except Revan resisted Vitiate's TP, lol. Vitiate couldn't even break the Act II strike team without incapacitating them first, and this team is better in every way.

Given enough time, could Vitiate subjugate the mind of Kit Fisto or even Qui-Gon? Quite possibly. But he isn't going to be afforded the luxury of uninterrupted channeling time. He'll be attacked constantly.

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Lol @ comparing Jinn to Revan.


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I'm not. I'm saying his example doesn't work, lol. He could've given a better example.

Although they're probably closer than you think. thumb up

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They aren't even remotely comparable.


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R2 carries his team to victory


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R2D2 probably solos, yeah.

He endured a blast to the face from droids that could've "destroyed a planet" or some sh!t. :3


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They aren't even remotely comparable.


In some domains.

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Except Revan resisted Vitiate's TP, lol.

Revan wasn't able to resist during his first encounter. There is no reason to doubt his willpower at that time as well but Vitiate's telepathic abilities took him by surprise. Revan learned from his experience and developed countermeasures in response.

Unfortunately for you, no Jedi in the proposed Strike Team has the exposure, experience and capabilities of Revan (Reborn) under his belt.

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Vitiate couldn't even break the Act II strike team without incapacitating them first, and this team is better in every way.

1. I see that as a matter of choice. Vitiate wasn't taking his chances with 4 powerful Jedi in front of him and decided to hit them first. It is also possible that Vitiate subjected them to telepathic pressures during the fight. One statement gives this impression.

2. The proposed team isn't better than the other in (every) way. It comprises of a powerhouse, two above-average Jedi and one droid. The droid is a non-factor, the above-average Jedi are fodder, and we are left with Mace Windu who won't last long in the end.

The Strike Team that confronted Vitiate during the events of SWTOR, comprised of two powerhouses and two above-average Jedi. On the whole, it was a quality team.

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Given enough time, could Vitiate subjugate the mind of Kit Fisto or even Qui-Gon? Quite possibly. But he isn't going to be afforded the luxury of uninterrupted channeling time. He'll be attacked constantly.

Telepathic powers materialize instantly and Vitiate can break even a well-trained Force-user in a split-second moment. All Vitiate needs is some distance to channel his telepathic abilities.

Do also keep in mind that Vitiate can multi-task with his powers. He can exert pressure on the minds of the Jedi while (simultaneously) subjecting them to additional powers and such pressures will be sufficient to disorient the Jedi and they will eventually falter.

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Revan wasn't able to resist during his first encounter. There is no reason to doubt his willpower at that time as well but Vitiate's telepathic abilities took him by surprise. Revan learned from his experience and developed countermeasures in response.


Revan had practically already fallen during their first encounter.

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Unfortunately for you, no Jedi in this Strike Team has the exposure, experience and capabilities of Revan under his belt.


We have Mace, who's more skilled and powerful, and Qui-Gon, who rivals Revan as a swordsman.

More importantly, even on the nexus, Meetra, Scourge and Revan were capable of beating Vitiate as much as he was capable of beating them. Mace > Revan, Qui-Gon >> Meetra and Kit Fisto >>> novel Scourge, plus R2's here for the lols. This is a better team than one that could more or less get an even split with Vitiate on a nexus. In other words, even on a nexus, this team would beat Vitiate for at least a solid majority, and they'd take every round on neutral ground.

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1. I see that as a matter of choice. Vitiate wasn't taking his chances with 4 powerful Jedi in front of him.

2. This team isn't better in every way. It comprises of a powerhouse, two above-average Jedi and one droid. The droid is a non-factor, the above-average Jedi are fodder, and we are left with Mace Windu who won't last long in the end.

The Strike Team that confronted Vitiate during the events of SWTOR, comprised of two powerhouses and two above-average Jedi. On the whole, it was a quality team.


This team is much better. Mace shits on anyone in that team, and could probably take Braga/Sedoru//Narezz alone. Qui-Gon and Kit Fisto are also above any of those three or Act II HoT.

Not to mention that that was a Vitiate who had spend three hundred years studying the dark side since the novel (which is the incarnation in this thread).

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Vitiate can break even well-trained Force-users in a split-second moment. Telepathic powers materialize instantly. All Vitiate needs is some distance to channel his telepathic abilities.


The novel established that, even on a nexus, Vitiate had to gather energies and channel his powers. It required time and focus such that he was completely susceptible to attack from Revan. The same would occur here. Trying to subjugate an opponent's mind would leave Vitiate vulnerable to attack from one of the others.

Meetra's Saber Throw also could've killed the Emperor. Novel Vitiate's awareness as a combatant is rather lackluster.

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Meetra's Saber Throw also could've killed the Emperor. Novel Vitiate's awareness as a combatant is rather lackluster.


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Vitiate probably walks into someone's saber again. He's also got shit aim:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjh6vparLcw&t=6m55s

I think I'll change my answer to "Vitiate dies" in the second round as well.


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