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Originally posted by carver9
Galan,

Post the scan after the first scan you posted. I feel confident that Doomsday second hit sent Superman flying.
It was a kick, not a punch -- that's why I didn't post it. But yeah, it did send Supes flying:

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No question about it, Supernan wins easily.


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Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, yeah. He dodged the heck out of that question. Why? Well I'd guess it's because Superman and Doomsday were CLEARLY striking one another with FAR more force at the end of the arc, than they were at the beginning. That much is incontrovertible fact. Here are some blatant examples...

From near the beginning of the arc:
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Same comic, a few pages later:
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Logical deduction aside, it was also outright stated that Doomsday's strength continuously increased during the battle -- which obviously means Superman's strength did the same:

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*In short, your point/opinion here is the accurate one. thumb up
LMAO, where in that scan does it say that SUPERMAN was getting stronger??? He said he put everything he had LEFT in that final blow meaning he got no stronger. Learn to comprehend. It's YOU that make that misguided false claims. If anything, he was getting weaker and had to try and end it before DD overpowered his ass, so he put everything left in his near empty tank to try and win.


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Galan,

Post the scan after the first scan you posted. I feel confident that Doomsday second hit sent Superman flying.
Of course it sent him flying. You think he was going to post the next one?? He had to try and leave that out hoping I wouldn't notice.


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Why are you claiming he's a Pendaran disciple ? Pendaran isn't a good person and he's too gutless to leave cbr.
How I usually respond to JBL.

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There was no holding back.
The DoS arc showed that Superman had to go beyond his limits. It was always like that. Supermans strength makes this world appear like it is made out of paper. He could kill with a light clap. He has to hold back, else he might kill by accident. Once he sees that someone can take a hit he hits harder. So yes, he becomes stronger or decides to hit stronger, for this he needs to overcome the mental blockades he build over his lifetime that prevent him hurting other fragile beings by accident. Supermans strength is dynamic and has always been. Deal with it.


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World of cardboard syndrome. Fear of breaking someone.

Peter Parker has the same problem, as the Sin Eater arc showed. He was abducting children, and Spidey beat him within an inch of his life. Much later, he finds out he's free and goes to confront him, and finds a crippled man who can barely function, and was pathetically telling him he deserved every shattered bone, every severed nerve.. It was enough to make Peter dive out of the building in panic..

And that's Spidey. Now imagine the same phobia when you can move mountains.


Not sure what this has to do with anything. Every super powered hero goes through the same thing.


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How fast is this?

After all calculations? About 7650 to 8320 FTL. From the writers perspective? I would guess 2-3 FTL.

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Originally posted by carver9
Galan,

Post the scan after the first scan you posted. I feel confident that Doomsday second hit sent Superman flying.


It proves the point.

DD was getting stronger.

Unless of course, you want to claim that DD.....held back with his punch? DD, the rage monster, held back?


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LMAO, where in that scan does it say that SUPERMAN was getting stronger??? He said he put everything he had LEFT in that final blow meaning he got no stronger. Learn to comprehend. It's YOU that make that misguided false claims. If anything, he was getting weaker and had to try and end it before DD overpowered his ass, so he put everything left in his near empty tank to try and win.


He wasn't getting stronger. He just put all of his energy into one final blow. If he was getting stronger, it would have said it just like it was brought up about Doomsday in the same story.


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He wasn't getting stronger. He just put all of his energy into one final blow. If he was getting stronger, it would have said it just like it was brought up about Doomsday in the same story.
Of course he was. Doomsday's base was already higher than Supermans and it grows with rage.

The entire DOS story Superman was trying to play keep up just to go even with him. Telling himself that he needs to be faster, that he needs to be stronger just to keep pace with this being that is stronger than him and continuously growing even moreso and isn't wearing down or slowing down. These were all examples of him cutting down his mental blocks as the fight progressed. The last couple blows-- breaking his bone, and then killing him, were the only ones that actually hurt Doomsday. "Yes! I finally managed to hurt him!" He dug into his power and finally hit the motherload.


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Of course he was. Doomsday's base was already higher than Supermans and it grows with rage.

The entire DOS story Superman was trying to play keep up just to go even with him. Telling himself that he needs to be faster, that he needs to be stronger just to keep pace with this being that is stronger than him and continuously growing even moreso and isn't wearing down or slowing down. These were all examples of him cutting down his mental blocks as the fight progressed. The last couple blows-- breaking his bone, and then killing him, were the only ones that actually hurt Doomsday. "Yes! I finally managed to hurt him!" He dug into his power and finally hit the motherload.
thumb up This is obvious to those of us who...you know...actually READ the story.


If Doomsday were the only being getting stronger as the battle progressed, then Superman wouldn't have been able to continuously keep stepping up in order to keep pace with him. After all, Supes postulated that a kick from Doomsday(when he was still at his WEAKEST levels, mind you) may have been the hardest he'd EVER been hit up to that point:
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IOW, Doomsday's strength continued to grow, thus Superman's MUST HAVE done the same. Heck, the bulk of their battle was about Superman removing his mental blocks so that he COULD become strong enough to win. Numerous bits of dialogue tell us this -- here are a few examples:

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When Superman finally realized that he needed to kill Doomsday to win -- THAT is when he began landing attacks that actually hurt the beast. This culminated with Supes packing all of his strength into one final attack, which 'killed' DD:

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Starting to go all out is not the same as getting stronger.


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It means he becoming gayer, I.e. Coming out.


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Starting to go all out is not the same as getting stronger.
Exactly!! He started to fight like doomsday, giving it all he had. Zero strength increase on supermans part.


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IKR?
That was exactly my reaction while reading this.

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Not sure what this has to do with anything. Every super powered hero goes through the same thing.


Some less then others. Superman is defined by his humanity and nobility. He cursed himself early in his career merely for breaking someone's jaw.

Iron Fist or Batman wouldn't bat an eye at breaking a few bones. Nor would Thor.


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