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Azronger
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The Palpatine Supremacy Thread

This thread is functions as a list for all the quotes that have been discovered so far declaring him the most powerful. You can copy-paste them from here instead of going on a hunt for them, if you ever need them.

Palpatine is the most powerful of the Banite Sith:

For a millennium, the Sith maintained the order in secrecy, passing down their evil heritage. As they gained knowledge of the dark side of the Force, their powers increased with each generation.

--Episode 1: The Phantom Menace Scrapbook

Ultimately, Bane's plan produced more powerful Sith Lords with every generation.

--Force and Destiny Core Rulebook

For a thousand years we continued to follow Bane's Rule of Two, existing in the shadows, biding our time, growing in power, feeding our hatred. Darth Sidious proved to be the splendid culmination of a thousand years of Sith philosophy and teachings.

--Insider #88: Heritage of the Sith

"Bane's power has been passed down for a thousand years. I vow to be its last recipient."

--Darth Sidious, Book of the Sith

The Sith have waited millennium for the birth of one who is powerful enough to return them from hiding. Darth Sidious is that one—the Sith's revenge on the Jedi order for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of the dark side of the Force.

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

The Sith Order, in hiding for a millennium, had awaited the birth of one who was powerful enough to return the Order to prominence. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of the dark side of the Force.

--The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

Darth Sidious proved to be the grim culmination of a thousand years of Sith philosophy and teachings.

--Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force

When the Sith finally emerged from a thousand years of watching and waiting, they numbered—in accordance with the tradition set down by Darth Bane—only two. The most powerful of these was Darth Sidious, an ice-cold, diabolically calculating genius equipped with the strength of the dark side of the Force, as well as an enormous wealth of Sith artifacts, equipment, and knowledge.

--The Dark Side Sourcebook


Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord in general:

Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.

--The New Essential Chronology

“Plagueis the Wise, who in his time truly was, except at the end, trusting that the Rule of Two had been superseded, and failed to realize that he would not be excused from it. Plagueis the Wise, who forged the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy has ever known, and yet who forgot to leave a place for himself; whose pride never allowed him to question that he would no longer be needed.”

--Darth Sidious, Darth Plagueis

Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history.

--Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm

Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known.

--Vader: The Ultimate Guide

When the most powerful Jedi battled against the most powerful Sith, the two sides of the Force clashed in spectacular style. Grand Master Yoda took on Darth Sidious in the Senate building on Coruscant and proved that strength and power have nothing to do with size.

--Jedi Battles

Emperor Zaarin? The idea isn't as ludicrous as it sounds. Demetrius Zaarin gambled everything on an audacious coup d'état and nearly killed the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy has ever known.

--Insider #66: Who's Who: Imperial Grand Admirals

With the galaxy now ripe for conquest, the Emperor has become the most powerful Sith Lord of all and a master of the Dark Side of the Force, ordering the extermination of the Jedi Order with the aid of his apprentice, the deadly Darth Vader.

--Legends Epic Collection: The Empire Volume 1

Meet Darth Sidious – the most powerful Sith Master who ever lived.

--Darth Maul, Sith Apprentice

The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith who had ever existed.

--Death Star

Yoda was a master at masking his emotions, but not even he could hide them from the greatest Sith Lord ever known.

--Clone Wars: Wild Space


Palpatine is the most powerful dark side user in general:

Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel—a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force’s light and dark sides.

--The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

He had succeeded where all others had failed in taming the Dark Side.

--The Dark Side Sourcebook

It quickly became clear to Luke that this decrepit and seemingly defenseless old man was masterfully adept in the ways of the Dark Side of the Force. Indeed, as Vader had warned, the Emperor had become the Dark Side's most powerful expression.

--Dark Empire Endnotes

When the evil Emperor, Supreme Master of the Dark Side of the Force, turned the fullness of his malevolence against Luke, Anakin Skywalker suddenly awoke from the curse that had imprisoned him for so long...

--Dark Empire endnotes

As Luke's father once said, during the time he served the greatest known wielder of the Dark Side of the Force, the Emperor: "The ability to destroy a planet - or even a whole system - is insignificant next to the power of the Force."

--Dark Empire endnotes


Palpatine is arguably the most powerful Force user in general:

And what of the Emperor? He was mighty in the Force, perhaps the mightiest being who has ever lived.

--Galaxy Guide 5: Return of the Jedi


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This is what respect threads are for. smile

Nice job anyway.


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Re: The Palpatine Supremacy Thread

quote:
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time.

—The Complete Visual Dictionary
That one there is one of my personal favorites.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Beniboybling
This is what respect threads are for. smile

Nice job anyway.


Nova is lazy and hasn't included them all in his threads. So I decided to post them here.

And thanks smile


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Valkorion is still > though.


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^ Someone's in denial laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Nephthys
Valkorion is still > though.

At least you are funny.


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It's my one redeeming quality as a human being.

Well, that and choosing Control in ME3.


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Originally posted by Ursumeles
At least you are funny.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Azronger
^ Someone's in denial laughing out loud
Even Hall Hood disagrees, sad.


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The problem is valkorion isn't a sith

So most of those quotes don't include him

Am I right?


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Originally posted by hutchy1345
The problem is valkorion isn't a sith

So most of those quotes don't include him

Am I right?


Yes, he is. And you do realize this thread includes other quotes that proclaim him the most powerful dark side wielder in general, do you?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Nephthys
Valkorion is still > though.

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Nihilus still beats him via

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DB77's Revan > Luke > Sidious > Valkorion.


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DB77's Revan > Luke > Sidious > Valkorion.
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The problem is valkorion isn't a sith.


Nah, he isn't.

a number of the quotes speak of dark side users in general, however - so those would still apply.


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Besides two or three holdouts, I don't think anyone actually questions Sidious's supremacy. Even the ringleader of the SWTOR circus only thinks Valk is equal to Sheev in terms of power.

Which is an indictment at best when you consider the disproportionate amount of time and ritual and fodder Valk had at his disposal to augment his power.

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Yeh, not as if Sidious had thirty generations of Sith building towards his rise, or that he had a trove of Sith knowledge laid at his feet, or that his master had hand held him into a position where he had a major imbalance of the Force working for him. Or that he had been put into a place where he wouldn't even need to kill the Jedi by himself. Almost as if his success is built upon the exact opportune moment the Bane line had waited for since its inception.

Almost as if Valkorion had three major organisations of Force users to compete with and still nearly wiped out all life in the galaxy, essentially all on his own merit. Imbalancing the Force is so 2012, devouring the Force to become a God. Now that's some serious ambition and he almost got away with it.


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I accept that Valkorion is surpassed by Sidious in the end, but by what point and margin is something I often ponder.


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