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Based off what ? He hasn't done anything special. He's looked awful and slow in combat. Azog would decimate this loser.


And what has Azog done besides killing dwarves!?

Lol The weaker mountain smashed Oberyns head like if it was an egg!

This mountain is much stronger and much durable.

Azog either runs from fear or gets split in half!


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And what has Azog done besides killing dwarves!?

Lol The weaker mountain smashed Oberyns head like if it was an egg!

This mountain is much stronger and much durable.

Azog either runs from fear or gets split in half!
He defeated a highly skilled dwarf in Thorin. Gregor hasn't beaten any skilled opponent straight up.

Oberyn is a much smaller man.

Based off what ?

We both know Azog would make this cuck shit his pants. He's Cersei's *****.


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He defeated a highly skilled dwarf in Thorin. Gregor hasn't beaten any skilled opponent straight up.

Oberyn is a much smaller man.

Based off what ?

We both know Azog would make this cuck shit his pants. He's Cersei's *****.


Lol! Which high skill dwarf!? Please post video.

LolAzog is used to killing little dwarves. This time he is going against a stronger bigger opponent.


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Lol! Which high skill dwarf!? Please post video.

LolAzog is used to killing little dwarves. This time he is going against a stronger bigger opponent.
Thorin the main dwarf.

Thorin would rape Gregor. He hasn't beaten anyone. Hell, his brother lost to a chick beaten by another chick with a tiny dagger like sword.

Even Martin would agree his guys wouldn't stand a chance against Jackson's characters.


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Thorin the main dwarf.

Thorin would rape Gregor. He hasn't beaten anyone. Hell, his brother lost to a chick beaten by another chick with a tiny dagger like sword.

Even Martin would agree his guys wouldn't stand a chance against Jackson's characters.


Haha No dwarf would even get close to the Mountain.

Azog seems terrifying against little weaker dwarves. This time he is fighting someone stronger than him!

The Mountain would decapitate him with his own hands!


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Haha No dwarf would even get close to the Mountain.

Azog seems terrifying against little weaker dwarves. This time he is fighting someone stronger than him!

The Mountain would decapitate him with his own hands!
Create a thread on any site with Thorin vs. Gregor and j bet they not only say Thorin wins but he rapes.

Azog is stronger than the Mountain.

Bullshit. Can't wait for the final season when his shit brother Sandor kills his zombie ass. Gregor is shit.


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Create a thread on any site with Thorin vs. Gregor and j bet they not only say Thorin wins but he rapes.

Azog is stronger than the Mountain.

Bullshit. Can't wait for the final season when his shit brother Sandor kills his zombie ass. Gregor is shit.


Based on fanatism not facts.

Azog isnt stronger than the mountain. Much less from Zombified Mountain.

Azog is shit for getting beaten by Thorin.


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Based on fanatism not facts.

Azog isnt stronger than the mountain. Much less from Zombified Mountain.

Azog is shit for getting beaten by Thorin.
So you think the world consists of Lotr fanatics ?

Based off what ? Squashing a tiny man's head ?

Dude, Gregor got his ass kicked. He has become Cersei's *****. Azog would bury this cuck.


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So you think the world consists of Lotr fanatics ?

Based off what ? Squashing a tiny man's head ?

Dude, Oberyn didn't beat anyone. Azog survived unlike Oberyn then won and then fatally wounded him in their final encounter.


No, but you have to give me facts to prove so, same as all.

Yes! What has Azog done besides being held by Thorin by the sword?

Oberyn beats Azog just as he beat Mountain. That doesnt mean Azog beats Mountain.


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No, but you have to give me facts to prove so, same as all.

Yes! What has Azog done besides being held by Thorin by the sword?

Oberyn beats Azog just as he beat Mountain. That doesnt mean Azog beats Mountain.
I have given you facts as have others.


Dominated dwarves in combat. Killed the dwarf leader, sent the son in terror, killed another of the line of Durin, put Gandalf on his ass, defeated Thorin, and led an Orc army for Sauron.

Oberyn failed in his one mission. Let it go. Azog has better feats, respect in his own universe, etc. Gregor didn't beat his brother. Ran off in embarrassment, got his ass kicked by Oberyn but was lucky he dropped his guard, and taken a vow of silence for his whore Queen Cersei.


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I have given you facts as have others.


Dominated dwarves in combat. Killed the dwarf leader, sent the son in terror, killed another of the line of Durin, put Gandalf on his ass, defeated Thorin, and led an Orc army for Sauron.

Oberyn failed in his one mission. Let it go. Azog has better feats, respect in his own universe, etc.


Which others?

Defeated dwarves. Just like the Mountain could. Kill and old dwarf! Mountain would have decapitated him with his bare hands!

Azog has one hand due to a dwarf! By the time this battle is over he will have no hands nor head!

Admit it Zombie Mountain is way above Azog.


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Which others?

Defeated dwarves. Just like the Mountain could. Kill and old dwarf! Mountain would have decapitated him with his bare hands!

Azog has one hand due to a dwarf! By the time this battle is over he will have no hands nor head!

Admit it Zombie Mountain is way above Azog.
I am saying other posters have given you facts as to reach their conclusions.

Yes, and Thorin as well as others. Gregor hasn't defeated anyone of status or outright on his own without Oberyn gloating.

Gregor is hideous as shit due to one small man. Azog unlike Jaime isn't a loser with his loss of hand. That's the thing in GoT they don't ever come back like Azog.

Azog would crush him. There aren't any facts to back your case. He looked even worse as a zombie. Slower and more dumb than ever. Who has he beaten ?

Sandor is going to kill this overrated pile of shit.


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I am saying other posters have given you facts as to reach their conclusions.

Yes, and Thorin as well as others. Gregor hasn't defeated anyone of status or outright on his own without Oberyn gloating.

Gregor is hideous as shit due to one small man. Azog unlike Jaime isn't a loser with his loss of hand. That's the thing in GoT they don't ever come back like Azog.

Azog would crush him. There aren't any facts to back your case. He looked even worse as a zombie. Slower and more dumb than ever. Who has he beaten ?

Sandor is going to kill this overrated pile of shit.


Not here at least, not to me.

Azog has never defeated anyone to the status of the Mountain!

Azog is an idiot for losing his hand to Thorin. Lol Jaime butchers azog in a heartbeat! Jaime lost his hand cause he was captured, not on battle!

They are the facts that he crushed Oberyn's skull with his bare hands. The facts that he decapitated a horse with one swing of his sword! He decapitated a man with his bare hands!

Azog is just an overrated orc! Which will get his ass kicked the moment he desires to challange Ser Gregor.


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Not here at least, not to me.

Azog has never defeated anyone to the status of the Mountain!

Azog is an idiot for losing his hand to Thorin. Lol Jaime butchers azog in a heartbeat! Jaime lost his hand cause he was captured, not on battle!

They are the facts that he crushed Oberyn's skull with his bare hands. The facts that he decapitated a horse with one swing of his sword! He decapitated a man with his bare hands!

Azog is just an overrated orc! Which will get his ass kicked the moment he desires to challange Ser Gregor.
Iyo but Gregor does t have any legit wins he earned over anyone even decent in GoT.

Jaime couldn't even show an edge over Stark. Dayne would crush Jaime. He has no impressive wins either. Didn't Brienne beat him iirc.

Azog is a badass while Jaime is pathetic with his missing hand.

Azog sent back multiple armored foes back many feet which is far more relevant in battle than squashing someone's head.

Nah, Gregor is going to get raped by Sandor. Calling it now.


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Iyo but Gregor does t have any legit wins he earned over anyone even decent in GoT.

Jaime couldn't even show an edge over Stark. Dayne would crush Jaime. He has no impressive wins either. Didn't Brienne beat him iirc.

Azog is a badass while Jaime is pathetic with his missing hand.

Azog sent back multiple armored foes back many feet which is far more relevant in battle than squashing someone's head.

Nah, Gregor is going to get raped by Sandor. Calling it now.


Cause thats the way the story goes. Doesnt mean he is weak or a bad fighter.

Azog doesnt reach the level of Jaime nor Ned! Lol! Azog is clumsy while Jaime is still a decent swords man with his weak hand!

Multiple Dwarves you mean, and with a hammer! Gregor could toss them the same way but using kicks! Just like he kicked Oberyn. But Zombie Gregor is stronger than Normal gregor.

You are assuming that. Ser Gregor beats Azog.


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Anybody who tries to downplay Middle-Earth Dwarves because of their stature has no idea what they are talking about. Dwarves are established as being exceptionally strong and hardy, even compared to most species, never mind relative to their physical stature. Also, despite said small stature, they are still regarded as powerful warriors and a formidable fighting force, capable of engaging Men, Elves, Orcs etc. in combat and winning. And we are shown tons of evidence of this when watching the likes of Thorin, Gimli and the others, across the various films, throughout the various battles, when they take on scores of opponents of greater physical size than them without issues.


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Anybody who tries to downplay Middle-Earth Dwarves because of their stature has no idea what they are talking about. Dwarves are established as being exceptionally strong and hardy, even compared to most species, never mind relative to their physical stature. Also, despite said small stature, they are still regarded as powerful warriors and a formidable fighting force, capable of engaging Men, Elves, Orcs etc. in combat and winning. And we are shown tons of evidence of this when watching the likes of Thorin, Gimli and the others, across the various films, throughout the various battles, when they take on scores of opponents of greater physical size than them without issues.


Am not underestimating them.

But the bigger opponent always has the advantage over the small one. Azog was bigger, they couldnt even get near him cause he would mace them! In this case the Mountain is big and strong enough to take him head on.


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Cause thats the way the story goes. Doesnt mean he is weak or a bad fighter.

Azog doesnt reach the level of Jaime nor Ned! Lol! Azog is clumsy while Jaime is still a decent swords man with his weak hand!

Multiple Dwarves you mean, and with a hammer! Gregor could toss them the same way but using kicks! Just like he kicked Oberyn. But Zombie Gregor is stronger than Normal gregor.

You are assuming that. Ser Gregor beats Azog.
Oberyn made him look awful and he didn't have an edge over Sandor who has been dominated and beaten down by a woman.

See you can't even believe this as it's based off nothing. Jaime was beaten by Brienne. The only two great combatants from GoT are Oberyn and Dayne.

Oberyn had leather armor and he's very skinny. He's an ectomprph body type.

Based off what is zombie version stronger ?

Nah, Gregor is slow and hasn't beaten anyone exceptional based off the showings. Azog would thoroughly dominate him.


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Am not underestimating them.

But the bigger opponent always has the advantage over the small one. Azog was bigger, they couldnt even get near him cause he would mace them! In this case the Mountain is big and strong enough to take him head on.


Then I would suggest adjusting your tone a bit. The way you talk about defeating Dwarves makes it sound as though any chump could do it, when the actual films suggest otherwise.

Again, Dwarves have shown time and time again that they are perfectly capable of contending with opponents that have a reach advantage. IIRC, Gimli actually ended up with one more kill than Legolas at Helm's Deep, despite him not having any ranged weapons. And Azog is not the only opponent Thorin fought that had him in size either. Dwarf size has not been shown to seriously hamper them in 1-on-1 combat (at least not that I can recall), so Thorin being a Dwarf does not at all detract from the showings.

And, yes, Gregor is bigger, but he is also definitely way slower than Thorin was. Thorin used maneuverability against Azog, which is something Gregor sure as shit can't do.


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Oberyn made him look awful and he didn't have an edge over Sandor who has been dominated and beaten down by a woman.

See you can't even believe this as it's based off nothing. Jaime was beaten by Brienne. The only two great combatants from GoT are Oberyn and Dayne.

Oberyn had leather armor and he's very skinny. He's an ectomprph body type.

Based off what is zombie version stronger ?

Nah, Gregor is slow and hasn't beaten anyone exceptional based off the showings. Azog would thoroughly dominate him.


Oberyn is MUCH FASTER than any dwarf Azog has fought! So the comparisson doesnt support your point. Lol that Woman is WAY above Azog.

Brienne would **** Azog any time! Jaime too. Ned the same thing. Azog only has a chance against normal Clegane. Zombi Clegane rapes Azog. Simply to strong for Azog.

Lol Zombi version is much more durable! He received a mace to the chest and didnt even blink! Zombi Clegane is much more patient, also he seems to have no feelings. Its a Zombi. He could tale more than what normal Clegance could. And pay attention, cause normal clegane is a JUGGERNAUT.

Azog loses this. Zombi Gregor is to much for him.Azog only has one hand, which makes him even worst.


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