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Jaggarath
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Warning DeAgostini, Publisher of Fact Files and Official Starships Collection, Responds

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Nothing revelatory: if new material explicitly contradicts old material, you must defer to the new.

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Nothing revelatory: if new material explicitly contradicts old material, you must defer to the new.


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Nothing revelatory. smile


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This changes nothing. smile


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My question:

"Just to clarify, the original Fact Files quote regarding the most powerful Jedi only applied to the old Star Wars continuity during the time-span of the publication (i.e. 2002 to 2005)?"

"As you mentioned, the re-release only applies to characters who predated the series, so I imagine the original version also has the same policy."

Their response:

"That is correct when considering the "Legends" canon."

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Are ya'll ****ing serious? They directly confirm above that the quotes in Fact Files only applies up to characters around as of the time of the publication.

I imagine the confusion is coming from "official information," but given the context, that's referring to new stories and characters, not retconning quotes.


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Also, even if their final sentence is referring to retconning quotes (it isn't), that doesn't change the fact they still confirmed my original questions and observations, which explicitly stated that quotes only refer to characters who predate the series.

There's literally no getting around it.


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The response says that information published afterward takes precedence in terms of accuracy. Meaning if there's something that explicitly contradicts the notion in question that's published afterwards, it takes priority.

That's a textbook retcon. That's always been the case.

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That's irrelevant. That doesn't change the fact they confirmed my statements, which has nothing to do with retcons.


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The man said what he said and it weren't what you said, and unfortunately we can't be sure he fully understood or even fully read your convoluted question. Maybe ask him again for further clarification. rolling on floor laughing


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"That is correct when considering the "Legends" canon."

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I dunno man, I'm not confident he was clear on the question. sad


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The question was explicit and in detail.


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quote: (post)
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The response says that information published afterward takes precedence in terms of accuracy. Meaning if there's something that explicitly contradicts the notion in question that's published afterwards, it takes priority.

That's a textbook retcon. That's always been the case.
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That's irrelevant. That doesn't change the fact they confirmed my statements, which has nothing to do with retcons.
No; it's not.

It means the fact that they agreed with your statements means that every statement and accolade is effectively retconned with each new source/character.


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The question was explicit and in detail.
Can you confirm that he understood it though?

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KOTOR was released in 2003, during the time-span of the publication. So that means it would apply to Revan anyway right?


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KOTOR was released in 2003, during the time-span of the publication. So that means it would apply to Revan anyway right?
KotOR was published after Fact File 11. So no.


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But still within the time-span of the publication (i.e. 2002-2005).


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To be clear, KOTOR was released during the course of the series, so by Ant's estimation, it should still apply.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Beniboybling
KOTOR was released in 2003, during the time-span of the publication. So that means it would apply to Revan anyway right?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
My question:

"Just to clarify, the original Fact Files quote regarding the most powerful Jedi only applied to the old Star Wars continuity during the time-span of the publication (i.e. 2002 to 2005)?"

"As you mentioned, the re-release only applies to characters who predated the series, so I imagine the original version also has the same policy."

Their response:

"That is correct when considering the "Legends" canon."

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I imagine the confusion is coming from "official information," but given the context, that's referring to new stories and characters, not retconning quotes.
Ah; didn't even notice that.

Mace > KotOR Revan (at the very least). The quote itself is
quote:
Alongside Mace Windu, with whom he served on the Jedi Council, Yoda was the most respected and most powerful Master ever to have walked the corridors of the Jedi Temple.


But it's not explicitly Force strength. It could just as well be their combative prowess.

Goddamn; it's like they succeeded in answering the question, but you failed to ascertain whether or not they believe it should apply to Mace and Revan.


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