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cdtm
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Everyone who remembers the original Jurassic Park with such rose-colored glasses needs to go back and watch it again. It's not the symbol of perfection that everyone remembers it to be. There are some goofy things in it, too. (But I will admit that Jeff Goldblum had many great, memorable lines.)

For example everyone has complained about the Jurassic World characters being cardboard cutouts. Well, there were many cardboard cutouts in the original also. And the weird, glaring mistake with the T-Rex walking through the fence one second and then the next second it's a huge cliff so the characters could conveniently escape. That is an extremely bizarre and glaring mistake.


The original is a flawed popcorn flick, followed by deeply flawed abominations trying to recapture the good elements of a flawed movie, and missing the point.

Like Bayformers, and how the first was the only enjoyable one.


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only ever liked the 2nd movie for the Park films the 3rd movie is almost a syfy movie quality

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Everyone who remembers the original Jurassic Park with such rose-colored glasses needs to go back and watch it again. It's not the symbol of perfection that everyone remembers it to be. There are some goofy things in it, too. (But I will admit that Jeff Goldblum had many great, memorable lines.)

For example everyone has complained about the Jurassic World characters being cardboard cutouts. Well, there were many cardboard cutouts in the original also. And the weird, glaring mistake with the T-Rex walking through the fence one second and then the next second it's a huge cliff so the characters could conveniently escape. That is an extremely bizarre and glaring mistake.


Maybe that's how they were in the novel too?...then again i haven't it.


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The original is a flawed popcorn flick, followed by deeply flawed abominations trying to recapture the good elements of a flawed movie, and missing the point.

Like Bayformers, and how the first was the only enjoyable one.


I disagree, there are still things to enjoy in the sequels despite the flaws. There are dinosaurs after all.

And Transformers is not worthy of a comparison to Jurassic Park.


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Not until they start putting some effort into those movies, Bumblebee could be the start of that.


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There are dinosaurs after all.



That's the thing for me though...

I'm a huge monster/creature fan & the franchise kinda killed that element of awe for me.

Spielberg made dinosaurs main stream.

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"They are giant robots, after all".

Seems like a good comparison to me! thumb up smile


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The Jurassic World movies are the only worthy sequels to the first Jurassic Park.

The first 2 Jurassic Park sequels were kinda pointless and just sequels for the sake of it.

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Wow...not much love for the 2nd Park movie.


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An alternate opening to Jurassic World 2 from Banana-Dragon Productions



only problem with that is the coolant in the can only lasted for 36 hours.


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Wow...not much love for the 2nd Park movie.



Jeff Goldblum was the saving grace. But no apart from that wasnt a fan.

Before the Jurassic World films, the JP sequels were like the T1/T2 sequels for me.

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It was a little weird to me that Jeff Goldblum's character seemed a lot different from JP1 to JP2.

The Jurassic films definitely have their flaws, but they're still enjoyable for the dinosaurs, action, and set pieces.


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Jeff Goldblum was the saving grace. But no apart from that wasnt a fan.

Before the Jurassic World films, the JP sequels were like the T1/T2 sequels for me.


Fair enough

i've watched The Lost Worlds heaps of times. The 3rd movie not as much, it has a couple of good action scenes but overall just not as good as the previous movies.


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Looks like this is settling out at about 54% on RT

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Critics Consensus: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom adds another set piece-packed entry to the blockbuster franchise, although genuinely thrilling moments are in increasingly short supply.


But eh, I'm not so interested in what critics think of it, but more what fans of the series think and possibly more casual movie-goers. I'm looking forward to seeing it this Saturday.

I don't plan to hear what he has to say until I see the movie, but here's Chris Stuckmann's review. C- from him. Although I agree with him about some movies, I'm beginning to like him less and less, because he sometimes tries to be extra critical, probably to help himself fit in with other critics...



This guy (who I've never really heard of) really liked it...



And I think she really liked it...


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I enjoyed it. Trust your fellow KMCers.

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Not dying to see it, but it's something I want to definitely see on the big screen. Visuals and sound is what these movies mainly have going for them.

Though the first JP was a solid sci-fi/adventure family film all around.


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I enjoyed it. Trust your fellow KMCers.


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Not dying to see it, but it's something I want to definitely see on the big screen. Visuals and sound is what these movies mainly have going for them.


Yeah, from what I've gleaned skimming reviews J. A. Bayona has apparently infused some nice visual flare. I've now seen 2 of his other films (The Impossible and The Orphanage) and he's really, really good.


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Actually the CGI can be quite bad at times. Took me out of the film when that was the case.

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Hm.. well I've heard some reviews say the CGI is blended very well with the practical animatronic effects, much like JP1.


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Hm.. well I've heard some reviews say the CGI is blended very well with the practical animatronic effects, much like JP1.


Havent watched this! AM SO EAGER!


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Hm.. well I've heard some reviews say the CGI is blended very well with the practical animatronic effects, much like JP1.



There are scenes where I personally found the CGI to be very blatant.

But they were mostly in the daytime scenes. The night time scenes are fine.

And yes they did blend in animatronics quite well.

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