So again you rather talk about something that has nothing to do with the fight.
Calling concessions don't mean anything to anyone here.
The key feat is PIS and unusable by agreement of several posters. It's irrelevant whether the key weighed a million tons or not.
We can discuss that issue only (the key weighed a million tons in the story) and not who wins if you like. Yes or No?
I don't know what they are thinking (present tense) but I do know what they were trying to convey. Otherwise, the story would make no sense. Writer's intentions are usually clear. Those are the words of a mod here.
Without any science reasoning no feat can be quantified. Thus you couldn't prove if one character is stronger, faster, more durable, etc.
As you have already conceded that you can offer no real proof as to the key's weight, there is no need to continue.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
It's possible.
Or it's possible that he was lying in order to push Deathlok harder.
There is a valid reason for the trainer to lie. There is no valid reason for Jimmy to lie.
How would Jimmy know how much it weighs, did he put it on a scale?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Neither did the writer portray the Shield agent as lying.
The fact that we don't know how Jimmy knows leaves the possibility of him being misinformed. And as already stated, he had the hots for SG already claiming she's "a lot" faster than SM.
You are treating the story as actual events and confusing them with writer's intentions.
The writer clearly wasn't trying to convey that Jimmy was misinformed. Thus he wasn't.
The trainer had a reason to lie. It's extremely possible that the writer was portraying him to lie because we all know that Cap can't even push a bulldozer with any decent speed (if at all).
With that said, neither feat is usable in a forum fight due to the extreme outlier rule we all agreed upon.
The question was how did Jimmy know the key's weight. are you actually going to answer?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
It doesn't leave any possibility of him being misinformed because the writer didn't want him to be misinformed. Stop confusing this with actual events.
What lol. No, it's the story and character's feelings that influences what they say. Not everything coming out of a character's mouth is fact lol.
That wasn't hinted at in the slightest. All we know in terms of "writer's intention" is Jimmy saying it's too heavy for a human to hold.
There's no evidence anywhere that the "million" tons was any kind of accurate information Jimmy had, given we have no idea where Jimmy pulled that number from.
You don't get to decide that. You need a quote from the writer/director.
That's not hinted at in the slightest. Writer's intention was pretty clear there- that Deathlok is tough but still no match for Cap.
That said, even though the writer's intention seems pretty clear, that doesn't make it a canon fact at all.
We are questioning whether or not Jimmy's statement is accurate, thus how he came by his knowledge is very relevant.
So how about actually answering the question.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Everything that comes out of the mouth of a character is a fact if the writer intented for it to be. You are still confusing the scene with an actual event.
Something is true because it's true. No one gets to decide whether a truth is either true or false.
I'm not saying that it wasn't writer's intentions that Cap didn't do it better. It's possible.
The feat is unusable regardless. So what is the debate really about?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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