I love this guy. I just ordered a couple of his books. Some highlights from this video:
~ If you're born in the wrong part of the world, then sorry, you just missed the correct revelation to get to heaven.
~ Christianity is a cult of human sacrifice and when put in different contexts makes it look like the beliefs of a lunatic.
~ Serial killers can go to heaven after a life of evil brutality just by saying a few words on death row.
~ God is praised with some activities, but does he get the blame for atrocities? No, it's said that he's "mysterious."
~ When Elves die in The Lord of the Rings they can be reborn in Middle Earth. lol
~ The God of the Bible is morally corrupt, but because it's declared that "He's God," it doesn't matter what he does or says, it's automatically good because he's God.
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These are a lot of the same issues I bring up with Religion. I don't know how an omnipotent, all loving God could allow the suffering seen on a daily basis. Although, if we take the Bible literally, when God does get fed up with our sin, he just kills nearly everyone and everything on the planet.
You'd think a God that wasn't a piece of utter shit wouldn't make it so you can miss out on heaven based on where you are born.
Sounds like a horrible entity that needs to be snuffed out of existence.
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And the issue of Biblical morality is significantly questionable...
"Thou shalt not have any gods before me"? Really? This God is very jealous and has a big ego. So much for being without sin. "Thou shalt not kill" is a good idea, but there are definitely some obsolete laws in the 10 Commandments like "Remembering the Sabbath" and "Taking the Lord's name in vain." And no law against slavery? Oh yeah, that's right, the Bible condones slavery and killing homosexuals...
Well, back when it was written, they probably didn't think about the sheer number of people that could be born without the knowledge of their God. God, being the all-knowing entity that he is, probably had the foresight though.
One time I knew a 13 yr. old who got jealous his gf tutored some other 13 yr. old boy.
If the emotion is fit for 13 yr. olds then why not God?
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
I've always thought, that for such a perfect being, he sure does act a lot like us flawed humans. No false gods before me reeks of Narcissism and pride.
The podcast is "waking up with Sam Harris" I think. It's good, but Harris' calm tone works much better when he has someone to debate. Preferably someone with a temper.
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Azula: My mommy didn't love me so I'm going to burn down your village.
This doesn't address the question but here are some 'rebuttals' to Sam Harris' work
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
When talking about religions like Christianity or Islam you need to be specific, this is a figurative slaughtering of Christians. The guy didn't..rain meteors down on a city, only a crazed super villain would do that.
One time I was watching the Justice League cartoon and the villains were evil Atlanteans and they wanted to kill people by flooding the entire world. What kind of crazy a-hole would ever think of something that horrific?
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Yeah, he's great in debates. So calm and collected. Even without his sound reasoning he would win debates simply with his demeanor. He has the patience and compassion of a true God... check out this, these clowns, The Young Turks, edited and completely misrepresented his views and he STILL is calm and compassionate. But they are seriously guilty of slander...
Doesn't address what question? (I can't get to the link at work)
I have yet to find any reasonable rebuttals to his views, but I'll certainly take a look at the link when I can. Whether you think he's right or not, he is at least starting conversations about this stuff, which I think is all he is trying to do. Because conversation is what the situation needs to resolve itself. I listened to this old NPR program and it's a really, really good conversation...
Him trouncing Cenk from TYT in a debate is hilarious as well.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Yeah that is it, Cenk really thinks he can keep up in that video, but he can't.
You will notice he is mostly about feelings, Harris is mostly about facts.
Sam almost has to explain this stuff to Cenk as if he is a child. He is also way way more patient with Cenk than I think most people would have been.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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Yeah, Sam is seriously my new favorite person in the world. His patience, knowledge, and complete lack of any condescension is nothing short of godlike. The way he conducts himself in debates is truly commendable.
I think some of the comments on that video sum it up pretty well...
I haven't finished watching the video yet, but when Cent didn't understand the difference in probability between "Thinking Jesus is coming back" and "Thinking Jesus is coming back to [specific place]" I was truly astonished. I don't have a very good understanding of probability, but that's a pretty simple concept to me.
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