I didn't see him moving anywhere near light speed when Orion attacked him. Just cause he can achieve that speed during flight isn't proof that he's that fast in combat, and certainly not that he's harder to hit than Spider-man.
Not super speed! Anything but that! Why, this contextless, baseless statement has completely sapped my will to fight! Naw, I still say he gets his brains clawed out.
All of those feats were performed with the harness, with the exception of him outspeeding the little girl. Are you saying his speed is equal without the harness? If it is, I concede the speed argument.
Don't forget the Mr. Miracle instance. Orion was trying to catch Scott (Without the harness), but failed to do so. Scott has a specialty at getting away, so...
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Yeah, that's just armor. Harness is always golden.
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Cool. I was fooled because in the original scans of "grounded" Orion, he didn't have the harness or the armor. My bad. If he's capable of fighting at light speed, then yeah, he blitzes the team and knocks them out before they can do anything. Still doesn't "one-shot" them, but doesn't struggle either.
He had some armor that he normally didn't have for that fight, no indication it did more than provide protection. The fight with Darkseid was agreed to be just hand-to-hand(and was until Darkseid broke the rules at the end). One of Darkseid's few speed feats was moving so fast Pre-DOS Superman didn't even see him move.
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