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Braniac 5.0
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Rank these supermen

Sundipped Superman
Normal Superman
DCnU Superman
Current Superman
Superboy
Superboy Prime
Superman Prime W/Guardian amp
Superman Prime 1 Million
Quantum Superman
Superman W/Cosmic Armor
Bizzaro
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
PC Superman

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Superman W/Cosmic Armor
Quantum Superman
Superman Prime 1 Million
Superman Prime W/Guardian amp
Sundipped Superman
Superboy Prime
Current Superman
Normal Superman/DCnU Superman
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
Bizzaro
Superboy

I think I got them all aside from PC Superman, who varies too greatly to rank. CA Superman and Quantum are both meta characters and basically impossible to rank against one another but I'm making assumptions. Eradicator and Bizarro could be interchangeable.


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Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sundipped Superman
Normal Superman
DCnU Superman
Current Superman
Superboy
Superboy Prime
Superman Prime W/Guardian amp
Superman Prime 1 Million
Quantum Superman
Superman W/Cosmic Armor
Bizzaro
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
PC Superman

evil face


Superman w/CA
Superman Prime 1Mil
Sundipped Superman
PC Superman
Superboy Prime w/Guardian Amp
Superman 1Mil
Superman [merged]/Superboy Prime
DCnu Superman/Pre-Flashpoint Superman
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
Bizarro
Superboy


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Why the evil face smilie?


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Why the evil face smilie?


Perhaps trolling JBL?

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You didn't see this coming carver? The dynamic strength craps, all the different names his fans gave him?? Regular superman, non-holding back superman, unrestrained superman, owaw superman, normal superman??? Just be glad they are not trying to claim he's Abstract. YET!!


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Re: Rank these supermen

Superman W/Cosmic Armor
Sundipped Superman (from OWAW)/Quantum Superman/PC Superman
Current Superman/Superman Prime W/Guardian amp/Superman Prime 1 Million
Superboy Prime
Normal Superman
DCnU Superman
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
Bizzaro
Superboy

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Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman w/CA
Superman Prime 1Mil
Sundipped Superman
PC Superman
Superboy Prime w/Guardian Amp
Superman 1Mil
Superman [merged]/Superboy Prime
DCnu Superman/Pre-Flashpoint Superman
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
Bizarro
Superboy


Ok, I'm going to attempt to hijack this thread because let's be honest it's a CBC thread so it's not going anywhere anyways.

I want to talk about Superman 1 Million since you included him in your list. Some, including Galan (and I apologize in advance if I'm misrepresenting opinions), believe that 1 Million is nigh-unstoppable (my own exaggeration added) under the Super Sun because he appears to have instant regeneration from near-death injuries (see example )

I feel like this rationale is misrepresented. Recovering from low energy levels and/or energy drain is not typically treated the same way as say, a broken bone. Superman himself has almost identical energy-drain regeneration feats (see after effects of a Parasite energy drain ). And that's just regular Superman under our regular Sun (albeit very, very close). Still, we wouldn't ever argue that Superman could regenerate from any damage instantly under a yellow sun because he can regenerate from low energy levels, so I don't quite understand that argument with 1 Million.

Not trying to put down 1 Million in any way, because he's still beastly. Punching through time in a near-death state is ridiculous, but his best feat I think is still slowing (and, with help, stopping) a charging galaxy with his TK. Think about how ridiculous that is. Some wankers here fawn over Hyperion stopping a single planet moving at whatever really fast speed, but Kal did it to a motherfucking galaxy of planets and stars moving at what was unquestionably FTL speeds. (Note: I say "unquestionably" because the comic didn't specify a speed, but galaxies are massive and the space between them even more so. The Ape Galaxy was going to collide with the Milky Way in 2 hours. For comparison, IRL the Andromeda Galaxy, our closest neighbor, will collide with the Milky way in about four billion years @ 400,000 kilometers per hour.)

So anyways, back to my point, I don't think Kal can insta-heal under the Super-Sun.

Discuss.


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Originally posted by Cogito
Ok, I'm going to attempt to hijack this thread because let's be honest it's a CBC thread so it's not going anywhere anyways.

I want to talk about Superman 1 Million since you included him in your list. Some, including Galan (and I apologize in advance if I'm misrepresenting opinions), believe that 1 Million is nigh-unstoppable (my own exaggeration added) under the Super Sun because he appears to have instant regeneration from near-death injuries (see example )

I feel like this rationale is misrepresented. Recovering from low energy levels and/or energy drain is not typically treated the same way as say, a broken bone. Superman himself has almost identical energy-drain regeneration feats (see after effects of a Parasite energy drain ). And that's just regular Superman under our regular Sun (albeit very, very close). Still, we wouldn't ever argue that Superman could regenerate from any damage instantly under a yellow sun because he can regenerate from low energy levels, so I don't quite understand that argument with 1 Million.

Not trying to put down 1 Million in any way, because he's still beastly. Punching through time in a near-death state is ridiculous, but his best feat I think is still slowing (and, with help, stopping) a charging galaxy with his TK. Think about how ridiculous that is. Some wankers here fawn over Hyperion stopping a single planet moving at whatever really fast speed, but Kal did it to a motherfucking galaxy of planets and stars moving at what was unquestionably FTL speeds. (Note: I say "unquestionably" because the comic didn't specify a speed, but galaxies are massive and the space between them even more so. The Ape Galaxy was going to collide with the Milky Way in 2 hours. For comparison, IRL the Andromeda Galaxy, our closest neighbor, will collide with the Milky way in about four billion years @ 400,000 kilometers per hour.)

So anyways, back to my point, I don't think Kal can insta-heal under the Super-Sun.

Discuss.
I think you're making a distinction that isn't exclusive - them getting charged by power IS what both heals and powers them up. In the Parasite scan, he heals internal damage instantly. In the S1M scan, we can see him damaged by his actions - he is getting old, sick:

WW:
"He's dying, hourman! No one can shatter the time barrier with bare hands!"
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Supes: "feel so old..so sick.."

And we have it flat-out stated that he regenerates from old age/near death:
"flooding in...from the Super-Sun...regenerating the celular damage"

And it's not without precedent, normal Superman has grown his entire heart in moments when near the sun:
http://s738.photobucket.com/user/Ph...ation1.jpg.html
http://s738.photobucket.com/user/Ph...ation2.jpg.html

Now imagine a Super-Sun...and a super-Superman, and you get the DC 1Mil scene. The difference is that future Supes doesn't need to get dropped into the sun/hug it for that level of regeneration, due to the aforementioned factors.


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Originally posted by Cogito
Ok, I'm going to attempt to hijack this thread because let's be honest it's a CBC thread so it's not going anywhere anyways.

I want to talk about Superman 1 Million since you included him in your list. Some, including Galan (and I apologize in advance if I'm misrepresenting opinions), believe that 1 Million is nigh-unstoppable (my own exaggeration added) under the Super Sun because he appears to have instant regeneration from near-death injuries (see example )

I feel like this rationale is misrepresented. Recovering from low energy levels and/or energy drain is not typically treated the same way as say, a broken bone. Superman himself has almost identical energy-drain regeneration feats (see after effects of a Parasite energy drain ). And that's just regular Superman under our regular Sun (albeit very, very close). Still, we wouldn't ever argue that Superman could regenerate from any damage instantly under a yellow sun because he can regenerate from low energy levels, so I don't quite understand that argument with 1 Million.

Not trying to put down 1 Million in any way, because he's still beastly. Punching through time in a near-death state is ridiculous, but his best feat I think is still slowing (and, with help, stopping) a charging galaxy with his TK. Think about how ridiculous that is. Some wankers here fawn over Hyperion stopping a single planet moving at whatever really fast speed, but Kal did it to a motherfucking galaxy of planets and stars moving at what was unquestionably FTL speeds. (Note: I say "unquestionably" because the comic didn't specify a speed, but galaxies are massive and the space between them even more so. The Ape Galaxy was going to collide with the Milky Way in 2 hours. For comparison, IRL the Andromeda Galaxy, our closest neighbor, will collide with the Milky way in about four billion years @ 400,000 kilometers per hour.)

So anyways, back to my point, I don't think Kal can insta-heal under the Super-Sun.

Discuss.

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Who from those versions are actually Kal-El?

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^^^not even sure any more.

I'll stick with the Byrne version, its never let me down.


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I like the dabate going on in here.

Superman is awesome anyway.


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Re: Rank these supermen

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Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Sundipped Superman
Normal Superman
DCnU Superman
Current Superman
Superboy
Superboy Prime
Superman Prime W/Guardian amp
Superman Prime 1 Million
Quantum Superman
Superman W/Cosmic Armor
Bizzaro
Cyborg Superman
Eradicator
PC Superman

evil face

I copy pasted this list into the Google search engine and the only thing to really come up was this thread.
Its surprising no one else seems to be debating this.
Anyhow, i like the debates going on here (LoBs poll that didnt really go anywhere, blocky's thread where JBL put things in perspective by pointing out no actual proof's been given about half power, and this ranking thread itself) for the most part.
Superman's a great character, and DCs bound to get things right sooner or later.


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Every superman is the same. All feats apply


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Nah, thats not right.
SDSupes' feats dont apply to Superboy, Bizarro's feats dont apply to Eradicator...


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Nah superman exists on every platform, in every medium concurrently. Hes a singular entity occuring simultaneously thru out time and space. Get with the program


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Nah, i'd rather be right, thanks, boo. laughing


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Originally posted by Inedian
Who from those versions are actually Kal-El?

Sundipped Superman
Normal Superman
DCnU Superman
Current Superman
Superman Prime 1 Million
Superman W/Cosmic Armor
PC Superman

Technically Superman w/ Cosmic Armor is a fusion of Superman and Ultraman's essences powering Monitor tech.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
I think you're making a distinction that isn't exclusive - them getting charged by power IS what both heals and powers them up. In the Parasite scan, he heals internal damage instantly. In the S1M scan, we can see him damaged by his actions - he is getting old, sick:

WW:
"He's dying, hourman! No one can shatter the time barrier with bare hands!"
---
Supes: "feel so old..so sick.."

And we have it flat-out stated that he regenerates from old age/near death:
"flooding in...from the Super-Sun...regenerating the celular damage"

And it's not without precedent, normal Superman has grown his entire heart in moments when near the sun:
http://s738.photobucket.com/user/Ph...ation1.jpg.html
http://s738.photobucket.com/user/Ph...ation2.jpg.html

Now imagine a Super-Sun...and a super-Superman, and you get the DC 1Mil scene. The difference is that future Supes doesn't need to get dropped into the sun/hug it for that level of regeneration, due to the aforementioned factors.

Interesting, I didn't remember that example. I'm still not sure that it's enough to convince me, as the EJ arc was a whole basket of ridiculousness. Good stuff though thumb up


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