Well actually in all fairness this is the Hulk vs Thragg on neutral ground. True neutrality would work in favor of both and not become a hindrance or detriment to one of the characters involved.
In order for us to glean which character was truly the mightiest in said contest, placing spectators on the sidelines would become a hindrance to one while aiding the other. No bi-standers present would be the fair way to see things.
Or, Thragg would and could do a number of things like trying to kill them while the Hulk tried to protect them, which would also mean that the Hulk would have to actively dial back his own power to within the range that we saw during the WW Hulk series. Not at all fair. Do you see my point? Bi-standers being present nullifies the question in its truest form, and allows for one combatant to operate under optimal capacity, while crippling the other. Again not at all fair.
Hey I totally understand what you're saying, I was just pointing out that I think I remember one of the mods saying at some point that there were spectators present. Probably as a way to discourage out of character tactics for heroes like blowing up the entire area. And as I said, it's entirely possible that I'm remembering wrongly about the spectators so feel free to ask one of them for clarification.
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Ok. IH 314. We have a new kind of Hulk. A more grim/dire character which is illustrated by his new savageness in the opening pages
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^^This is not the dumb Hulk were are accustomed to up until this point. Who would have relished a chance to chill in the forest communing with woodland creatures. A more savage persona. The fact that hed one shot kill a deer shows he means business.
Anyway he bounds around and happens chance to stumble into Doc Samson at a desert base. The old Doc making a run for the worst psychiatrist in comics (Harley Quinn who?) decides to deride the green behemoth by pleading with Banner to calm down/take control.
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As you can see Samson gets wrecked.
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At this point Doc is koed. Banner in an attempt to regain control over the beast projects phantom enemies to Hulks mind (odd since up until this point its been established that they are one and the same. Hulk has a fight with ghosts (Juggs, Rhino, Modok, etc) until Samson wakes back up.
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Samson being out of his league and knowing Hulk thinks hes fake takes a golden opportunity to get a feat for his respect thread.
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Now. In my previous post i tried to give a little background to Byrnes Hulk. Show you a new persona and what was going on with him. Any 315 pushes the plot forward. Samson initiates a nutrino-bath (classic Hulk theme) to seperate the man from the monster. As usual its successful and as usual without Bruce to rein him in our jolly jade giant runs amuk: cue Avengers.
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Or atleast two of them. Tony and Simon (not Belmont the cool one but the lame ionic one) decide to engage. If you notice the dialogue Stark tells the WM to fall back "hes got this".
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He obviously doesnt and besides a nice uppercut and a few repulser blasts he only serves to piss him off. Lucky for him WM had the assist.
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They proceed to get wrecked. Until Herc saves their collective asses. He is a big gun after all.
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Hulk isnt taking this disrespect lying down so he responds in kind. Pushing herc off and no selling Namor.
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Up till now the Avengers havent put him down. And herc is the only one who can truly face him. As as you see from this point on its no longer a Hulk vs Avengers fight but a Hulk vs Herc one
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Samson comes to Hulks aid (sorta) and fights the remaining avengers. While herc deals with Hulk. Its weird because according to Herc, Samson is the larger threat and he leaves his raging partner to go help his buds.
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And thats it..hulk walks off panel..and samson berates the avengers for causing destruction. Ironic since its his fault they (hulk/banner) are seperated to begin with. Its a non fight imo. I mean yes he handled Tony/Simon rather easy and he no selled Namor but it wasnt really a drawn out brawl. Plus Herc atleast had him stalemated until Herc lost interest. The rest kinda hung back/dealt with Samson from that point.
So like I said. This fight is nothing like the Thragg vs Battle Beast/Invincible/Omni-Man fight were he one shot BB and raped the father/son duo.
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